From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 11:15:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EB4A33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF684000652 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28164-09 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (eng-11.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.30]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 40B4840002CC for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:22:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> To: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:28:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01C70329.02BA3A50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] test message X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:15:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C70329.02BA3A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank you. Shawn ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C70329.02BA3A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C70329.02BA3A50-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 11:16:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E290A33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F331C4001154 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28320-02 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (eng-11.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.30]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AED1400114F for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:23:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008b01c70353$0cfd1530$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> To: References: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:29:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0088_01C70329.241D9750" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:16:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C70329.241D9750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a second test message, replying to this post. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [jou-alumni] test message Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank you. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C70329.241D9750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C70329.241D9750-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 11:17:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862C8A33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3D14001154 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28332-06 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:23:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (eng-11.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.30]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 52F42400114F for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:23:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00a001c70353$2dca4cb0$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> To: References: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> <008b01c70353$0cfd1530$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:30:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01C70329.44ED18C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:17:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C70329.44ED18C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am receiving the messages. I assume you are too, Ron. Reply to them in = order to see if this is working OK. Thank you. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message This is a second test message, replying to this post. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [jou-alumni] test message Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank = you. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C70329.44ED18C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C70329.44ED18C0-- From DAVISRJ@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 12:37:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D19A33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570C1400182F for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31623-10 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from davisrj (eng-03.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.21]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id ADA6C4001807 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: References: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01FE_01C70335.6CC10E90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4963.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4963.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:37:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01FE_01C70335.6CC10E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The message arrived. Ron ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [jou-alumni] test message Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank you. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_01FE_01C70335.6CC10E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_01FE_01C70335.6CC10E90-- From DAVISRJ@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 12:37:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B953DA33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1FC400182F for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31843-05 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from davisrj (eng-03.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.21]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 687704001807 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8631ED561C224268B89C16F6351B4D2E@davisrj> To: References: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:57:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_020E_01C70335.77530CF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4963.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4963.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:37:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_020E_01C70335.77530CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The message arrived. Ron ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [jou-alumni] test message Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank you. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_020E_01C70335.77530CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ron
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------=_NextPart_000_020E_01C70335.77530CF0-- From DAVISRJ@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 12:37:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1271BA33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBAD4001807 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31674-08 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from davisrj (eng-03.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.21]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 86DEB400183E for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38ECC227679447119980F9F9758682EE@davisrj> To: References: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> <008b01c70353$0cfd1530$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:57:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021E_01C70335.7F210950" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4963.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4963.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:37:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_021E_01C70335.7F210950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The message arrived. Ron ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message This is a second test message, replying to this post. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [jou-alumni] test message Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank = you. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_021E_01C70335.7F210950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The message arrived.
 
Ron
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Ron,
 
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------=_NextPart_000_021E_01C70335.7F210950-- From DAVISRJ@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 12:38:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C19A33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEEA400183E for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31843-08 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from davisrj (eng-03.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.21]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 329304000E3E for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <57B85A816131431AAE6495C6F98E4C65@davisrj> To: References: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> <008b01c70353$0cfd1530$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:57:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_022E_01C70335.8449D650" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4963.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4963.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:38:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_022E_01C70335.8449D650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The message arrived. Ron ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message This is a second test message, replying to this post. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [jou-alumni] test message Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank = you. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_022E_01C70335.8449D650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The message arrived.
 
Ron
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------=_NextPart_000_022E_01C70335.8449D650-- From DAVISRJ@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 12:38:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3CFA33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E924000E3E for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31886-01 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from davisrj (eng-03.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.21]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id AECD94001835 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <43C25A7496CF4B748D30FE9CA0DC0326@davisrj> To: References: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW><008b01c70353$0cfd1530$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> <00a001c70353$2dca4cb0$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:58:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_023E_01C70335.8A8C0290" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4963.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4963.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:38:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_023E_01C70335.8A8C0290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The message arrived. Ron ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message I am receiving the messages. I assume you are too, Ron. Reply to them = in order to see if this is working OK. Thank you. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message This is a second test message, replying to this post. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [jou-alumni] test message Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank = you. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_023E_01C70335.8A8C0290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The message arrived.
 
Ron
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I am receiving the messages. I assume = you are=20 too, Ron. Reply to them in order to see if this is working OK. Thank=20 you.
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This is a second test message, = replying to this=20 post.
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To: journalism-alumni= @lists.plattsburgh.edu=20
Sent: Wednesday, November = 08, 2006=20 11:28 AM
Subject: [jou-alumni] test=20 message

Ron,
 
This is a test message to see if = this works.=20 Please reply. Thank you.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_023E_01C70335.8A8C0290-- From DAVISRJ@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 12:38:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B71EA33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:38:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525874001835 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31843-10 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from davisrj (eng-03.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.21]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E01C4000E3E for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:44:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3F10097346674C368DF1EC6E3F48FCDD@davisrj> To: References: <007601c70352$eb976e40$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW><008b01c70353$0cfd1530$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> <00a001c70353$2dca4cb0$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:58:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_024E_01C70335.8EB0F420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4963.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4963.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:38:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_024E_01C70335.8EB0F420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The message arrived. Ron ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message I am receiving the messages. I assume you are too, Ron. Reply to them = in order to see if this is working OK. Thank you. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] test message This is a second test message, replying to this post. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [jou-alumni] test message Ron, This is a test message to see if this works. Please reply. Thank = you. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_024E_01C70335.8EB0F420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The message arrived.
 
Ron
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I am receiving the messages. I assume = you are=20 too, Ron. Reply to them in order to see if this is working OK. Thank=20 you.
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To: journalism-alumni= @lists.plattsburgh.edu=20
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This is a second test message, = replying to this=20 post.
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To: journalism-alumni= @lists.plattsburgh.edu=20
Sent: Wednesday, November = 08, 2006=20 11:28 AM
Subject: [jou-alumni] test=20 message

Ron,
 
This is a test message to see if = this works.=20 Please reply. Thank you.
 
Shawn


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------=_NextPart_000_024E_01C70335.8EB0F420-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 14:02:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C92A33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E774001FEE for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12597-07 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (eng-11.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.30]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id E6A2D400278D for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:02:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <013801c70369$4f100d90$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> To: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:08:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0135_01C7033F.662BADB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] another test, No. 1 X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:02:11 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C7033F.662BADB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron, I think I may have solved the problem of duplicate e-mails, which I am = testing now with three separate e-mails. Please respond to each e-mail. = Thanks. Shawn ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C7033F.662BADB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ron,
 
I think I may have solved the problem = of duplicate=20 e-mails, which I am testing now with three separate e-mails. Please = respond to=20 each e-mail. Thanks.
 
Shawn
------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C7033F.662BADB0-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 14:02:18 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8524DA33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A819B4002DF0 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12662-09 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (eng-11.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.30]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 77B7E400B9C8 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:02:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <014101c70369$57bb98b0$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> To: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:08:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013E_01C7033F.6EE0D5C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] test No. 2 X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:02:18 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013E_01C7033F.6EE0D5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please respond ------=_NextPart_000_013E_01C7033F.6EE0D5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
please = respond
------=_NextPart_000_013E_01C7033F.6EE0D5C0-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 14:02:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E61A33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:02:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473BB400279D for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12761-06 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (eng-11.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.30]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B7634001FE6 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:02:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <014a01c70369$63bcde80$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> To: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:09:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0147_01C7033F.7AE21B90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] test No. 3 X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:02:27 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01C7033F.7AE21B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please respond to this, the third and final test in this series. Thanks, = Ron ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01C7033F.7AE21B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please respond to this, the third and = final test in=20 this series. Thanks, Ron
------=_NextPart_000_0147_01C7033F.7AE21B90-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 14:03:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62CCA33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB8940026FF for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13190-03 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (eng-11.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.30]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id B4EF34002BDB for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:07:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <015c01c7036a$101448d0$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> To: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:14:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0159_01C70340.27395ED0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] test X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:03:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C70340.27395ED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable test ------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C70340.27395ED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C70340.27395ED0-- From DAVISRJ@plattsburgh.edu Wed Nov 8 15:08:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF6BA33E3 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0C64001811 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16695-03 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:15:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from davisrj (eng-03.cvhall.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.44.21]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 7930D4001FF9 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:15:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: References: <013801c70369$4f100d90$1e2c8e89@MURPHYSW> Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] another test, No. 1 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:28:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C7034A.9167CA30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4963.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4963.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:08:43 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C7034A.9167CA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable REPLY 1 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:08 PM Subject: [jou-alumni] another test, No. 1 Ron, I think I may have solved the problem of duplicate e-mails, which I am = testing now with three separate e-mails. Please respond to each e-mail. = Thanks. Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C7034A.9167CA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
REPLY 1
----- Original Message -----
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To: journalism-alumni= @lists.plattsburgh.edu=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, = 2006 2:08=20 PM
Subject: [jou-alumni] another = test, No.=20 1

Ron,
 
I think I may have solved the problem = of=20 duplicate e-mails, which I am testing now with three separate e-mails. = Please=20 respond to each e-mail. Thanks.
 
Shawn


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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C7034A.9FEA63B0-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Fri Dec 1 10:13:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89ED4A33E3 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B7843754C6 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 04:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22387-06 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 04:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F0540998FF for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:02:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from 68-191-13-047.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (68-191-13-047.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [68.191.13.47]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:02:13 -0500 Message-ID: <20061130230213.114dqyyja8g8wcso@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:02:13 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Cardinal Points on the Web X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:13:03 -0000 The latest issue of Cardinal Points is currently live at www.cardinalpointsonline.com . 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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C72362.D3786B40-- From the.tuch@gmail.com Wed Dec 20 17:27:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D590FA33E3 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h30so2189025wxd for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:37:51 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GASZtaPRQh4vzgl+V8N3bfR02Y3YFckBY3JzBLBIHeXaSGDcOy2mru9WZIha6EXt7EGnUvrlMRifEDYyZHdBgXZ6E8xR6WvBWPVK/+uIXQds/hT39bYQtJHIOuv1jB/qqgNGZUWrrTARZ9/AeMcFRkZTIAiR/CFpzyVHuDfctQc= Received: by 10.70.30.5 with SMTP id d5mr13023528wxd.1166654271196; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.99.6 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:37:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8549dc340612201437q18583911t35451d3b5efe39a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:37:51 -0500 To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Assistant Editor for Comics at United Media in NYC X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:27:33 -0000 EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY JOB TITLE:=09=09Assistant Editor =96 Comics REPORT TO:=09 Managing Editor =96 Comics and Text LOCATION:=09=09New York City, Syndicate Editorial Department =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES: =95=09Edit, proofread and fact check a high volume of comic strips and features on a daily basis. =95=09Responsible for spelling, grammar, AP style, accuracy, taste, consistency and clarity. =95=09Act as liaison between talent and syndicate. 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From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Jan 4 13:46:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FE8A33E3 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:46:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EC64000E11 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32100-09 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EE734000672 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:58:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007601c73032$4ca6b400$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:58:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01C73008.63CBF110" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Alaska job opening X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:46:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C73008.63CBF110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is currently a vacancy for an entry-level copy editor at the = Fairbanks=20 Daily News-Miner. 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There is currently a vacancy for an entry-level copy editor at the=20 Fairbanks
Daily News-Miner. It's pretty straightforward work, laying = out a=20 small circ
newspaper on deadline. InDesign experience, some = Photoshop.=20 Newspaper is
likely to pay your moving expenses. (From experience = and tales=20 from others,
it's generally up to $2,000 if you sign on for a year). = The=20 paper's Web site
is www.newsminer.com, or contact = Michelle=20 Peterson at
mpeterson@newsminer.com = (former CP)=20 and she'll answer questions and send you
in the right direction if = you want=20 to take the next step and send in a =
resume.
------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C73008.63CBF110-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Jan 4 13:47:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E732A33E3 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95064002691 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32271-01 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id E0B9D400202A for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:58:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008701c73032$67319830$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:59:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01C73008.7E1D75C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] NYC job opening X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:47:18 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C73008.7E1D75C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY JOB TITLE: Assistant Editor - Comics REPORT TO: Managing Editor - Comics and Text LOCATION: New York City, Syndicate Editorial Department DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES: . Edit, proofread and fact check a high volume of comic strips and features on a daily basis. . Responsible for spelling, grammar, AP style, accuracy, taste, consistency and clarity. . Act as liaison between talent and syndicate. Communicate with talent regarding edits and deadlines. . Assist production supervisor with production of features . Assist in evaluating and tracking comics submissions; log in submissions, send letters QUALIFICATIONS AND SKILLS: . 2 years editing experience preferred . Knowledge of current events, comics or newspaper experience a plus . Must be exceptionally detail-oriented, with excellent communication, organization and editing skills . Must be able to work independently, to manage weekly deadlines and annual projects, and to see special projects through to completion . Ability to meet daily deadlines . Knowledge of AP style, MS Word, Photoshop and Quark required CONTACT: Julie Smith, ext. 678 DATE: December 20, 2006 The E.W. Scripps Company is an equal employment opportunity employer providing a drug-free workplace through pre-employment screening. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C73008.7E1D75C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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CONTACT: Julie Smith, ext. 678
DATE: = December 20,=20 2006


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------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C73008.7E1D75C0-- From mugglemagician@yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 19:54:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from web53101.mail.yahoo.com (web53101.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.51]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 4132DA33E3 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68004 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2007 01:06:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20070105010632.68002.qmail@web53101.mail.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1BzTyfHD3DQ9dnaRqJLZ8PQFR8XAobYsOqH/JBgKI7nGNrU4gG776ESAcQnwb7xPWgU467S+2U/HZtssmU7OxMt/z8REUD0X7hErHQwF6+9KCOeJOLgQ6GF+7+X2lXw/R+PjTu4HODeMCc4E2W/BVCHojZeMVk2WXJwWrx3tpKI=; X-YMail-OSG: 3W7dWhMVM1kdgzny0uUj0.2c1KYB9T1Npl25YoU.jNb9StbQ4qnpYSgGrQqTaGgEVjJBanm_bKat9NGA96RYaMtssmSysI3GNojviW9tN7h3UNLzlOZYqa89iNG.5gD7_nsUmNYOLFiNrMQG5.8Rf8ZV Received: from [192.104.192.54] by web53101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:06:32 PST Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:06:32 -0800 (PST) To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Job opening @ The Post-Star in Glens Falls X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:54:52 -0000 Copy Editor / Paginator position The Post-Star of Glens Falls, N.Y., is looking for someone to join our currently understaffed copy desk. We have an 8-person desk that consistently wins awards, working for a newspaper that's been voted best in the state in its circulation class 4 out of the past 5 years. Designers who prove they have the chops will have opportunities to layout feature fronts, special sections, tabloids and attend design workshops across the country. A premium is placed on design at The Post-Star and is not an afterthought as it is at some other newspapers. Some daily/weekly newspaper experience is preferred, but talented recent grads will not be ignored. Plattsburgh graduates are well-represented already in the newsroom: Two grads on the copy desk, two in the sports department and one reporter. What you must know: QuarkXPress, AP style What you should know: Photoshop, InDesign (we're switching over to this in a few months), FreeHand, basic HTML If you're interested, contact Editor Ken Tingley via e-mail: tingley@poststar.com, or send your resume to: Ken Tingley, Lawrence & Cooper Streets, P.O. Box 2157, Glens Falls, NY 12801. If you have further questions about the position, please e-mail Todd Kehoe (tkehoe@poststar.com) for more information. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mugglemagician@yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 19:57:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from web53108.mail.yahoo.com (web53108.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.58]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EAE3A33E3 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23969 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2007 01:08:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=CKk8za8TCUPxajZpg2V0RiIejjTaxYP4xCuufr2sSgklGIbUTdhZGVifPn4zUj6sK+seHuukmzUMArsKltoeVVkeZIgdVnj0uZ1wBagwLVgqBcHP+tukyQ1eWiUewSQKPrp7TNW+xKzQS7zT3DZgyT2mqmu5NVo44FojZvZSle8=; X-YMail-OSG: e2NozNsVM1kfwn2s7lnGl52grH0tjXbTWd_9mhFJ0dJ7q_htKf33hljXJeFwFu5gGqf0fOo4e_fGzhSGhotHNxUENGkJyF5Z_PprtyV3MbiGtkAhO67ioGIhq7IfdOIEZRdq9Vovl9CcyS_yCbnq7baLK6Vm4RH86txvdeU_q0EgvZaCW.flARo4Zzn5 Received: from [192.104.192.54] by web53108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:08:58 PST Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:08:58 -0800 (PST) To: Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <545349.23420.qm@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Job opening @ The Post-Star in Glens Falls X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:57:18 -0000 Copy Editor / Paginator position The Post-Star of Glens Falls, N.Y., is looking for someone to join our currently understaffed copy desk. We have an 8-person desk that consistently wins awards, working for a newspaper that's been voted best in the state in its circulation class 4 out of the past 5 years. Designers who prove they have the chops will have opportunities to layout feature fronts, special sections, tabloids and attend design workshops across the country. A premium is placed on design at The Post-Star and is not an afterthought as it is at some other newspapers. Some daily/weekly newspaper experience is preferred, but talented recent grads will not be ignored. Plattsburgh graduates are well-represented already in the newsroom: Two grads on the copy desk, two in the sports department and one reporter. What you must know: QuarkXPress, AP style What you should know: Photoshop, InDesign (we're switching over to this in a few months), FreeHand, basic HTML If you're interested, contact Editor Ken Tingley via e-mail: tingley@poststar.com, or send your resume to: Ken Tingley, Lawrence & Cooper Streets, P.O. Box 2157, Glens Falls, NY 12801. If you have further questions about the position, please e-mail Todd Kehoe (tkehoe@poststar.com) for more information. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From the.tuch@gmail.com Tue Jan 9 09:58:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.231]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C843BA33E3 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:58:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so439754wxc for ; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:10:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qwy+JgJq9wF11HpGwNFae8Tsg1VSZkFSXswifKe8/BgvnED6GlPq2Yz5nf/PL+AXtpgA994pB+ale/sBnFRmUPNVo6wlVOQJyuHzaG49kcDTNDrbM3eVVGM569O4WkYHjgjLEoIKKrA+bbnrQL+xGw3IFGUeL1jVN7AfUWA2BMw= Received: by 10.70.29.14 with SMTP id c14mr15448284wxc.1168355439375; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.98.11 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:10:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8549dc340701090710i50605104r3e93fcfa2a2254fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:10:39 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Job Opening -- Production Designer (NYC) X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:58:34 -0000 UNITED MEDIA Production Artist/Designer JOB TITLE:=09=09Production Artist/Designer REPORT TO: Executive Director Creative Services/Studio Director LOCATION: New York City =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES: =95=09Generates materials for licensee product design style guides, supplements, presentations, branding and art requests with direction from Creative Director =95=09Assists in designing advertising, collateral materials, and licensing show graphics =95=09Reviews, analyzes, and revises MAC files supplied by United Media's p= artners =95=09Responsible for final production and quality of art files. This scope includes evaluating and fixing designs and character art by resolving any production/manufacturing issues inherent in the files. This work is to be performed on the following categories: =95=09All printed works, advertising files, art banks and art supplements which include branding, POP, spot graphics, patterns, character art files and page layouts of art banks and supplements. =95=09Responsible for the production and delivery of projects with vendors through to delivery and invoicing =95=09Maintain electronic archive of studio projects =95=09Assists with in-house studio photography and product mock-ups =95=09Reviews and comments on product approval submissions =95=09Maintain studio, including ordering of art and printer supplies =09 =09QUALIFICATIONS AND SKILLS: =95=09Expertise of Macintosh's design programs: Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, Quark, Toast =95=09Knowledge of 4 color printing and typography =95=09Ability to take direction and constructive feedback =95=09Ability to make creative and brand judgments under guidance =95=09Understanding of production methods and requirements relating to vari= ous consumer products =95=09Strong attention to detail =95=09Ability to work autonomously in a pressurized environment =95=09Ability to multi-task. Can easily "switch gears" from one situation t= o another =95=09Reliable, responsible, timely =95=093-5 years design and production experience Send resumes to: =09Julie Smith, Human Resources United Media =09200 Madison Ave., 4th Floor =09New York, NY 10016 From the.tuch@gmail.com Tue Jan 9 10:01:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7040A33E3 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so440558wxc for ; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:13:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CCo7zXxADAwBtcy9AhTAVqK0Hv9YIGMSiuZhyRtSvwV35Gm9uJ/bXcMmwVF2pVYr0TxI7BJlheW8yz7R9+GlZZwgsnrrNM4nq6Eepx5M/fW6r0D5OD5paVzZoOQVFJYEdWhJRAIjXoPwn9Psd1SHBW8EIQoSoAkfS6Up43VG8DU= Received: by 10.70.68.11 with SMTP id q11mr8053541wxa.1168355625466; Tue, 09 Jan 2007 07:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.98.11 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:13:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8549dc340701090713p58478932ge69442730d5b39b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:13:45 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Job opening -- Licensing Coordinator (NYC) X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:01:40 -0000 EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY JOB TITLE:=09=09Licensing Coordinator REPORTING TO:=09Executive Director DEPARTMENT:=09Licensing, United Media, New York City DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES: General Duties =95=09General administrative duties (i.e., telephone, faxing, filing, maili= ngs) =95=09Coordinate meetings and weekly conference calls; take notes and disse= minate =95=09Maintain schedules, time sheets, monthly expense reports, contact dat= abase =95=09Arrange travel itineraries =95=09Maintain daily communication with clients and licensees ("first line of defense" on approval issues, artwork questions, general troubleshooting, both internally and externally) =95=09Coordinate and interface with art dept., retail dept., and others on special projects, retail presentations, etc. =95=09Work with other coordinators to share duties on an as-needed basis =95=09Traffic and track deal sheets and contracts (pending through fully-ex= ecuted) =95=09Reception relief Brand Management Duties =95=09Upkeep of sales kits, marketing materials =95=09Handle product samples from client =95=09Respond to inquiries from consumers, retailers, potential licensees =95=09Assist on marketing projects on an as-needed basis =95=09Assist brand manager in creating marketing materials and PowerPoint presentations =95=09Assist brand manager in preparing for monthly brand/sales meeting; develop agendas, handouts; take and disseminate notes QUALIFICATIONS AND SKILLS: =95=092 - 4 years of work experience (at least two years office experience) =95=09Strong proficiency in Word, Excel, Access, Outlook and PowerPoint =95=09Must be able to work with clients and prioritize in a fast-paced envi= ronment =95=09Must be able to handle multiple diverse tasks on deadline =95=09Must have strong follow up and organizational and time management ski= lls =95=09Excellent communication skills, both written and oral =95=09College degree preferred Send resumes to: Julie Smith, Human Resources United Media 200 Madison Ave., 4th Floor New York, NY 10016 From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Jan 31 08:15:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260D2A33E3 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3764000682 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:29:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08548-09 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E014000666 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: <20070131082939.aq40u47tw04ccsww@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:29:39 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] CP Board of Directors meeting X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:15:48 -0000 The Board of Directors for Plattsburgh State Media Inc., aka Cardinal Points, met yesterday afternoon. Below is a report (essentially the minutes) from that meeting, compliments of Editor in Chief Dan Shepard. I thought those on this list would be interested in knowing what changes are taking place with CP print and CP online. --Shawn Murphy ------------------------------------------------------------- Hello. I'm just sending a brief outline of what we discussed at the board meeting this afternoon so you are up-to-date. 1) We put up newspaper racks at the end of last semester in each of the 11 dorms. When two of our editors went around to put up logos for the racks this week, we found out our rack in deFredenburgh Hall is missing, so I will be contacting University Police tonight. 2) We discussed our new advertising staff, which Dr. Skopp is semi-familiar with because it's something we discussed at-length during the last board meeting. We now have a business manager who handles billing, ad contracts, collecting checks, basically, the business stuff. We also have an ad sales team (9 people) that sells ads, which we've never had in the past. They each receive 1-credit and a few of them have already been in the office this week to start selling ads (one of them just got Irises for four weeks). I handed out everyone a copy of the roles each individual has, which I've attached. 3) We discussed how we'll be having a new design for www.CardinalPointsOnline.com next week and discussed ideas to promote the Web site (All-List, flyers, graphics in the print edition, etc). We're looking into podcasts and blogs (athlete blogs, professor blogs) and putting our Sports contest online to draw in more people. 4) We talked about changes to the print edition. New Fuse (former life) editor, Joshua Cameron, was on hand to discuss the changes we've made. The back-page of our B section is now going to be magazine-oriented with different designs each week. Josh's section will focus more on live events and feature-type stories than event coverage. Everyone on-hand at the meeting was in favor of less event coverage. We are also removing the personals/week in review which has wasted a lot of space in the past. The last change for the print edition, which I already mentioned, is less event coverage and more news/features. Focus does an excellent job of covering the events and we feel we need to leave that to them, and focus (no pun intended) on different readers. We are also making our crime beat stronger, by following leads we hear and also setting the same two reporters (our two news associates, Sam Hollingsworth and Michelle Besaw) to cover the crime stuff. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to e-mail me. I hope I see you at the next meeting. -Dan Shepard editor in chief danshep233@gmail.com From joshwill9@gmail.com Fri Feb 2 14:55:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E690EA33E3 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so845856ugf for ; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:09:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ezu8p/1lOmOevuEE9XxLegcrWqpXmgSrA9Zs+xetBRhBY9mSJHBrlhGO0x0XxDImQUtIcWPhEvIpEH/LCLIRPHLsORafUcYtPv7VHX4foq0nHQm3fQJceyrNu8N86fbbkjPoXC3R4LkxU+qsezLnuMo+2nnXMMSesIipZYcF65E= Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr1354204buc.1170446997096; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.189.19 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:09:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6aaf763e0702021209m728da5e6x5f0d5c00cd16f881@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:09:57 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] weekly start up X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:55:55 -0000 greetings folks, south of rochester in livingston county i am contemplating starting a weekly paper that would eventually bleed into the rocheste area. the paper will have a heavy sports section focusing on the area high school sports. there are two tiny weekly papers in livingston county but they are pretty poor so the cometition wouldnt be a threat. the main paper the Democrate and Chronicle doesnt really touch the HS sports in livingston county. the paper would be a tabloid with strong colorful pictures and some heavy investigae reporting into the high use of drug use and suicide. so please feel free to give me some feedback if you would like to consider getting involved give me a call on my cell 347-668-2874. best wishes -- josh williams freelance photographer From josephparm@yahoo.com Sat Feb 3 16:11:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from web35014.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35014.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.208]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 906B5A33E3 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 16:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 79769 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2007 21:25:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=AARwpTHe1lMPGyEzuHIq2WekLJHyRGaQU65r6J4CAx3zThV9n+NE9xbk7jzu7pkiabiZX9kYBGk5Pyd6gNfDB6jeF4YJu8PcRab7wIa22tffRo0DN9r1kotM3EDyUl8fzl0xyOJjgQdVybCKgaPuPTFsxmnPUTNJBiCYTEvZwF8=; X-YMail-OSG: 041GSsoVM1nn.2xORwiDz4nSQ.fXbS8mQ36IzdUlY2.LZsItx_lrmYtNsOpEY2ZvYklTjKxNAvwMwHfRU.AeeD7XTYM3BfAYh5o_R7bRiGhVnL5OvRXI Received: from [4.156.174.189] by web35014.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:25:47 PST Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 13:25:47 -0800 (PST) To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu In-Reply-To: <20070203170004.7D78EA33E3@lists.plattsburgh.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1957162496-1170537947=:79023" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <640749.79023.qm@web35014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Missouri Bound X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:11:38 -0000 --0-1957162496-1170537947=:79023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello! I am a 1992 graduate of Plattsburgh and am moving to Kansas City, Mo. next month to get married. I have 13 years experience working for a small paper in Herkimer, NY and am looking to find a job in journalism out there. If any P'burgh grads are living in Missouri or the KC area, I would love to hear from them as I explore career opportunities. Joseph Parmon --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. --0-1957162496-1170537947=:79023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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I am a 1992 graduate of Plattsburgh and am moving to Kansas City, Mo. next month to get married. I have 13 years experience working for a small paper in Herkimer, NY and am looking to find a job in journalism out there. If any P'burgh grads are living in Missouri or the KC area, I would love to hear from them as I explore career opportunities.
 
Joseph Parmon
 
 


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I wanted to share an e-mail with = you from IRE (Investigative Reporters and Editors), an organization to = which I belong. It is currently undergoing a membership drive. I sing = the praises of the organization and encourage you to consider becoming a = member to take advantage of its resources, which you can browse at = www.ire.org .=20 --Shawn Murphy, Associate Professor, Journalism Department, SUNY = Plattsburgh -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- To IRE members: =20 We are launching our first membership drive in a decade and we are = asking for your help. =20 We are asking that each IRE member encourage at least one colleague or = friend in journalism to join IRE. =20 In a time of industry change in our profession - and in some cases deep = and troubling change - we want to broaden our membership, our = diversity, and our reach into all forms of media. =20 We believe that IRE is crucial to the future of excellence in = journalism. IRE provides the most practical training and resources for journalists = around the world. We support the best in public service journalism. And = we provide a haven for journalists who believe in maintaining the = highest standards in the field. =20 To help us in this effort, we have applied for and received a grant that = would further support IRE for every NEW member who joins us. =20 The $100,000 Challenge Fund for Journalism grant from three journalism = foundations will provide a partial match for every new member we sign = up. =20 So, for every NEW professional member who joins for $60, we will = receive $30 from the Grant that will go to our general operating budget = to support the services we can offer our members. For every student = member who signs up for $25, we will receive $12.50. =20 If most of you signed up one new member we would easily enlist more = than 3,000 new members and bring in more than the $100,000 to support = and increase our support and services. =20 At the same time, the increase in membership would show that serious = investigative journalism will thrive no matter what changes may be = ahead. =20 Please let us know if you have any questions or need information on all = the benefits that IRE offers to its members by contacting John Green, = membership coordinator, at (573) 882-2772 or jgreen@ire.org. And for = your colleagues to sign up for IRE membership, they need only to = http://www.ire.org/membership/ =20 Many thanks from the IRE board and staff. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C7490C.EBA45880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Plattsburgh journalism alumni. I = wanted to=20 share an e-mail with you from IRE (Investigative Reporters and Editors), = an=20 organization to which I belong. It is currently undergoing a membership = drive. I=20 sing the praises of the organization and encourage you to consider = becoming a=20 member to take advantage of its resources, which you can browse at www.ire.org .
--Shawn Murphy, Associate Professor, = Journalism=20 Department, SUNY Plattsburgh
 
----------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------

To IRE members:

 

We are launching our first membership drive in a = decade=20 and we  are asking for your help.

 

We are asking that each IRE member encourage = at =20 least one colleague or friend in journalism to join IRE.

 

In a time of  industry change in our = profession - and=20 in some cases deep and troubling change  - we want to broaden our=20 membership, our diversity, and our reach into all forms  of=20 media.

 

We believe that IRE is crucial to the future of = excellence=20 in journalism.

IRE provides the most practical training and = resources for=20 journalists around  the world. We support the best in public = service=20 journalism. And we provide a  haven for journalists who believe in=20 maintaining the highest standards in the  field.

 

To help us in this effort, we have applied for = and=20 received a grant that would further support IRE for every NEW member who = joins=20 us.

 

The $100,000  Challenge Fund for Journalism = grant=20 from three journalism foundations will  provide a partial match for = every=20 new member we sign up.

 

So, for every NEW  professional member who = joins for=20 $60, we will receive $30 from the Grant that  will go to our = general=20 operating budget to support the services we can  offer our = members.=20 For every student member who signs up for $25, we will  receive=20 $12.50.

 

If most of you signed up one new member we would = easily=20 enlist  more than 3,000 new members and bring in more than the = $100,000 to=20 support and increase our support and services.

 

At the same time, the increase  in = membership would=20 show that serious investigative journalism will thrive no  matter = what=20 changes may be ahead.

 

Please let us know if you have  any = questions or need=20 information on all the benefits that IRE offers to its  members by=20 contacting John Green, membership coordinator, at (573) 882-2772 = or  jgreen@ire.org. And for  your = colleagues=20 to sign up for IRE membership,  they need only to http://www.ire.org/membership/

 

Many thanks from the IRE board and =20 staff.

 

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C7490C.EBA45880-- From nyg12thman@yahoo.com Mon Feb 5 10:36:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from web55106.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55106.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.155]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 79A42A33E3 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 95333 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Feb 2007 15:50:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=fsQ6TbTm8CKjc2pp0NkY+IRbC3nt8ebs2OkPglmJqKpHKOY/3i/ZGxYP2FScI+LUPNYxPvlHJgq0SYTvM9v6ZrnFSNuQTbo+FTCUbxyCuMXrvX8miC7+H+/Ar+D+IgRx303eng6367eQ1VZN0h5zFZKvaxBYzvICRd0S2vK+lj4=; X-YMail-OSG: OefZ0GcVM1luUsHdChLVRUDtZP7XL15aasQgJZLL Received: from [24.39.201.74] by web55106.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:50:25 PST Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 07:50:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] weekly start up To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu In-Reply-To: <6aaf763e0702021209m728da5e6x5f0d5c00cd16f881@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-107036979-1170690625=:94782" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <300389.94782.qm@web55106.mail.re4.yahoo.com> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:36:10 -0000 --0-107036979-1170690625=:94782 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Josh, I thought you were residing in NYC these dayz. I'm writing you because I was visiting Rochester, interestingly enough, when I read this annoucement. My name is Derek and I met you at PSU when I was the CP sports editor and Katie Holscher's bf. I'm not the sports editor for a weekly startup in Saratoga Springs. Great place, good times. I was interested in hearing a little more about your plans in Rochester. Are you from there originally? I checked out the Democrat Chronicle too and wasn't very impressed. Not necessarily looking to leave the gig I have now, but always interested in hearing about the moves made by other PSU/cp alum. -Derek Constable sports editor of Saratoga TODAY, PSU class of ' 05 journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: greetings folks, south of rochester in livingston county i am contemplating starting a weekly paper that would eventually bleed into the rocheste area. the paper will have a heavy sports section focusing on the area high school sports. there are two tiny weekly papers in livingston county but they are pretty poor so the cometition wouldnt be a threat. the main paper the Democrate and Chronicle doesnt really touch the HS sports in livingston county. the paper would be a tabloid with strong colorful pictures and some heavy investigae reporting into the high use of drug use and suicide. so please feel free to give me some feedback if you would like to consider getting involved give me a call on my cell 347-668-2874. best wishes -- josh williams freelance photographer _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni --------------------------------- Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. --0-107036979-1170690625=:94782 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Josh,
 
     I thought you were residing in NYC these dayz. I'm writing you because I was visiting Rochester, interestingly enough, when I read this annoucement. My name is Derek and I met you at PSU when I was the CP sports editor and Katie Holscher's bf.
 
    I'm not the sports editor for a weekly startup in Saratoga Springs. Great place, good times. I was interested in hearing a little more about your plans in Rochester. Are you from there originally? I checked out the Democrat Chronicle too and wasn't very impressed.
 
   Not necessarily looking to leave the gig I have now, but always interested in hearing about the moves made by other PSU/cp alum.
 
   -Derek Constable
   sports editor of Saratoga TODAY, PSU class of ' 05

journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote:
greetings folks,

south of rochester in livingston county i am contemplating starting a
weekly paper that would eventually bleed into the rocheste area. the
paper will have a heavy sports section focusing on the area high
school sports. there are two tiny weekly papers in livingston county
but they are pretty poor so the cometition wouldnt be a threat. the
main paper the Democrate and Chronicle doesnt really touch the HS
sports in livingston county. the paper would be a tabloid with strong
colorful pictures and some heavy investigae reporting into the high
use of drug use and suicide. so please feel free to give me some
feedback if you would like to consider getting involved give me a call
on my cell 347-668-2874. best wishes

--
josh williams
freelance photographer
_______________________________________________
Journalism-alumni mailing list
Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni




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Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Feb 8 15:01:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C552A33E3 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9114002F4B for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00588-04 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:15:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id B96F94002F4E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:15:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <010801c74bbd$eb1a9b00$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:15:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0105_01C74B94.023B1D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Post-Star Job Opening X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:01:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C74B94.023B1D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Copy Editor / Paginator position The Post-Star of Glens Falls, N.Y., is looking for someone to join our currently understaffed copy desk. We have an 8-person desk that consistently wins awards, working for a newspaper that's been voted best in the state in its circulation class 4 out of the past 5 years.=20 Designers who prove they have the chops will have opportunities to layout feature fronts, special sections, tabloids and attend design workshops across the country. A premium is placed on design at The Post-Star and is not an afterthought as it is at some other newspapers. Some daily/weekly newspaper experience is preferred, but talented recent grads will not be ignored. Plattsburgh graduates are well-represented already in the newsroom: Two grads on the copy desk, two in the sports department and one reporter. What you must know: QuarkXPress, AP style What you should know: Photoshop, InDesign (we're switching over to this in a few months), FreeHand, basic HTML If you're interested, contact Editor Ken Tingley via e-mail: tingley@poststar.com, or send your resume to: Ken Tingley, Lawrence & Cooper Streets, P.O. Box 2157, Glens Falls, NY 12801. If you have further questions about the position, please e-mail Todd Kehoe (tkehoe@poststar.com) for more information. ------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C74B94.023B1D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Copy Editor /=20 Paginator position

The Post-Star of Glens Falls, N.Y., is looking = for=20 someone to join our
currently understaffed copy desk. We have an = 8-person=20 desk that
consistently wins awards, working for a newspaper that's = been=20 voted
best in the state in its circulation class 4 out of the past 5 = years.=20

Designers who prove they have the chops will have opportunities=20 to
layout feature fronts, special sections, tabloids and attend=20 design
workshops across the country. A premium is placed on design at = The
Post-Star and is not an afterthought as it is at some other=20 newspapers.

Some daily/weekly newspaper experience is preferred, = but=20 talented
recent grads will not be ignored. Plattsburgh graduates=20 are
well-represented already in the newsroom: Two grads on the copy=20 desk,
two in the sports department and one reporter.

What you = must=20 know: QuarkXPress, AP style

What you should know: Photoshop, = InDesign=20 (we're switching over to this
in a few months), FreeHand, basic=20 HTML

If you're interested, contact  Editor Ken Tingley via=20 e-mail:
tingley@poststar.com
, or send your resume to: Ken Tingley, = Lawrence=20 &
Cooper Streets, P.O. Box 2157, Glens Falls, NY 12801.

If = you=20 have further questions about the position, please e-mail Todd
Kehoe=20 (tkehoe@poststar.com) for=20 more information.
------=_NextPart_000_0105_01C74B94.023B1D20-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Feb 8 15:01:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED46A33E3 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11AB4002F45 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32638-10 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id F0F804002F4E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:16:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <011901c74bbd$fee74520$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:16:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0116_01C74B94.160A1130" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] United Media Job Opening X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:01:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C74B94.160A1130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UNITED MEDIA Production Artist/Designer JOB TITLE: Production Artist/Designer REPORT TO: Executive Director Creative Services/Studio Director LOCATION: New York City DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES: . Generates materials for licensee product design style guides, supplements, presentations, branding and art requests with direction from Creative Director . Assists in designing advertising, collateral materials, and licensing show graphics . Reviews, analyzes, and revises MAC files supplied by United Media's = partners . Responsible for final production and quality of art files. This scope includes evaluating and fixing designs and character art by resolving any production/manufacturing issues inherent in the files. This work is to be performed on the following categories: . All printed works, advertising files, art banks and art supplements which include branding, POP, spot graphics, patterns, character art files and page layouts of art banks and supplements. . Responsible for the production and delivery of projects with vendors through to delivery and invoicing . Maintain electronic archive of studio projects . Assists with in-house studio photography and product mock-ups . Reviews and comments on product approval submissions . Maintain studio, including ordering of art and printer supplies QUALIFICATIONS AND SKILLS: . Expertise of Macintosh's design programs: Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, Quark, Toast . Knowledge of 4 color printing and typography . Ability to take direction and constructive feedback . Ability to make creative and brand judgments under guidance . Understanding of production methods and requirements relating to = various consumer products . Strong attention to detail . Ability to work autonomously in a pressurized environment . Ability to multi-task. Can easily "switch gears" from one situation to = another . Reliable, responsible, timely . 3-5 years design and production experience Send resumes to: Julie Smith, Human Resources United Media 200 Madison Ave., 4th Floor New York, NY 10016 ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C74B94.160A1130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
UNITED=20 MEDIA
Production Artist/Designer

JOB TITLE: Production=20 Artist/Designer
REPORT TO:       =20 Executive Director Creative Services/Studio=20 Director
LOCATION:         = New York=20 City



DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES:
=95 Generates materials = for=20 licensee product design style guides,
supplements, presentations, = branding=20 and art requests with direction
from Creative Director
=95 Assists = in=20 designing advertising, collateral materials, and
licensing show = graphics
=95=20 Reviews, analyzes, and revises MAC files supplied by United Media's=20 partners
=95 Responsible for final production and quality of art = files.=20 This
scope includes evaluating and fixing designs and character art=20 by
resolving any production/manufacturing issues inherent in the=20 files.
This work is to be performed on the following = categories:
=95 All=20 printed works, advertising files, art banks and art supplements
which = include=20 branding, POP, spot graphics, patterns, character art
files and page = layouts=20 of art banks and supplements.
=95 Responsible for the production and = delivery=20 of projects with vendors
through to delivery and invoicing
=95 = Maintain=20 electronic archive of studio projects
=95 Assists with in-house = studio=20 photography and product mock-ups
=95 Reviews and comments on product = approval=20 submissions
=95 Maintain studio, including ordering of art and = printer=20 supplies

QUALIFICATIONS AND SKILLS:
=95 Expertise of = Macintosh's design=20 programs: Adobe Illustrator, Adobe
Photoshop, Quark, Toast
=95 = Knowledge of=20 4 color printing and typography
=95 Ability to take direction and = constructive=20 feedback
=95 Ability to make creative and brand judgments under = guidance
=95=20 Understanding of production methods and requirements relating to=20 various
      consumer products
=95 = Strong=20 attention to detail
=95 Ability to work autonomously in a pressurized = environment
=95 Ability to multi-task. Can easily "switch gears" from = one=20 situation to another
=95 Reliable, responsible, timely
=95 3-5 = years design=20 and production experience

Send resumes to:

Julie Smith, = Human=20 Resources
       United Media
200 = Madison=20 Ave., 4th Floor
New York, NY = 10016

------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C74B94.160A1130-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Feb 8 15:02:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602EBA33E6 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4BC4004805 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00633-06 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F04E4002F4E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:16:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <012801c74bbe$108d3eb0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:16:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0125_01C74B94.27B00AC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] United Media Job Opening #2 X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:02:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0125_01C74B94.27B00AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY JOB TITLE: Licensing Coordinator REPORTING TO: Executive Director DEPARTMENT: Licensing, United Media, New York City DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES: General Duties . General administrative duties (i.e., telephone, faxing, filing, = mailings) . Coordinate meetings and weekly conference calls; take notes and = disseminate . Maintain schedules, time sheets, monthly expense reports, contact = database . Arrange travel itineraries . Maintain daily communication with clients and licensees ("first line of defense" on approval issues, artwork questions, general troubleshooting, both internally and externally) . Coordinate and interface with art dept., retail dept., and others on special projects, retail presentations, etc. . Work with other coordinators to share duties on an as-needed basis . Traffic and track deal sheets and contracts (pending through = fully-executed) . Reception relief Brand Management Duties . Upkeep of sales kits, marketing materials . Handle product samples from client . Respond to inquiries from consumers, retailers, potential licensees . Assist on marketing projects on an as-needed basis . Assist brand manager in creating marketing materials and PowerPoint presentations . Assist brand manager in preparing for monthly brand/sales meeting; develop agendas, handouts; take and disseminate notes QUALIFICATIONS AND SKILLS: . 2 - 4 years of work experience (at least two years office experience) . Strong proficiency in Word, Excel, Access, Outlook and PowerPoint . Must be able to work with clients and prioritize in a fast-paced = environment . Must be able to handle multiple diverse tasks on deadline . Must have strong follow up and organizational and time management = skills . Excellent communication skills, both written and oral . College degree preferred Send resumes to: Julie Smith, Human Resources United Media 200 Madison Ave., 4th Floor New York, NY 10016 ------=_NextPart_000_0125_01C74B94.27B00AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY

JOB TITLE: Licensing = Coordinator
REPORTING=20 TO: Executive Director
DEPARTMENT: Licensing, United Media, New York=20 City

DESCRIPTION AND DUTIES:
General Duties
=95 General=20 administrative duties (i.e., telephone, faxing, filing, mailings)
=95 = Coordinate meetings and weekly conference calls; take notes and = disseminate
=95=20 Maintain schedules, time sheets, monthly expense reports, contact = database
=95=20 Arrange travel itineraries
=95 Maintain daily communication with = clients and=20 licensees ("first line
of defense" on approval issues, artwork = questions,=20 general
troubleshooting, both internally and externally)
=95 = Coordinate and=20 interface with art dept., retail dept., and others on
special = projects,=20 retail presentations, etc.
=95 Work with other coordinators to share = duties on=20 an as-needed basis
=95 Traffic and track deal sheets and contracts = (pending=20 through fully-executed)
=95 Reception relief

Brand Management=20 Duties
=95 Upkeep of sales kits, marketing materials
=95 Handle = product=20 samples from client
=95 Respond to inquiries from consumers, = retailers,=20 potential licensees
=95 Assist on marketing projects on an as-needed = basis
=95=20 Assist brand manager in creating marketing materials and=20 PowerPoint
presentations
=95 Assist brand manager in preparing for = monthly=20 brand/sales meeting;
develop agendas, handouts; take and disseminate=20 notes

QUALIFICATIONS AND SKILLS:

=95 2 - 4 years of work = experience=20 (at least two years office experience)
=95 Strong proficiency in = Word, Excel,=20 Access, Outlook and PowerPoint
=95 Must be able to work with clients = and=20 prioritize in a fast-paced environment
=95 Must be able to handle = multiple=20 diverse tasks on deadline
=95 Must have strong follow up and = organizational and=20 time management skills
=95 Excellent communication skills, both = written and=20 oral
=95 College degree preferred

Send resumes = to:

Julie Smith,=20 Human Resources
United Media
200 Madison Ave., 4th Floor
New = York, NY=20 10016
------=_NextPart_000_0125_01C74B94.27B00AC0-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Feb 8 15:03:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A35A33E6 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993774002F4E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32763-07 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:17:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id C6D134002F45 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:17:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <013f01c74bbe$33d931d0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:17:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013C_01C74B94.4AFE47D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Missouri JOU jobs? X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:03:03 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013C_01C74B94.4AFE47D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! I am a 1992 graduate of Plattsburgh and am moving to Kansas City, Mo. = next month to get married. I have 13 years experience working for a = small paper in Herkimer, NY and am looking to find a job in journalism = out there. If any P'burgh grads are living in Missouri or the KC area, I = would love to hear from them as I explore career opportunities. Joseph Parmon ------=_NextPart_000_013C_01C74B94.4AFE47D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!
 
I am a 1992 graduate of Plattsburgh and am moving to Kansas City, = Mo. next=20 month to get married. I have 13 years experience working for a small = paper in=20 Herkimer, NY and am looking to find a job in journalism out there. If = any=20 P'burgh grads are living in Missouri or the KC area, I would love to = hear from=20 them as I explore career opportunities.
 
Joseph Parmon
------=_NextPart_000_013C_01C74B94.4AFE47D0-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Feb 8 15:03:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA86A33E6 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8F04004805 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00633-09 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:18:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 316A24002F45 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:18:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <015c01c74bbe$4be9c730$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:18:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0159_01C74B94.630F0440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] IRE membership X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:03:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C74B94.630F0440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Plattsburgh journalism alumni. I wanted to share an e-mail with = you from IRE (Investigative Reporters and Editors), an organization to = which I belong. It is currently undergoing a membership drive. I sing = the praises of the organization and encourage you to consider becoming a = member to take advantage of its resources, which you can browse at = www.ire.org .=20 --Shawn Murphy, Associate Professor, Journalism Department, SUNY = Plattsburgh -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- To IRE members: =20 We are launching our first membership drive in a decade and we are = asking for your help. =20 We are asking that each IRE member encourage at least one colleague or = friend in journalism to join IRE. =20 In a time of industry change in our profession - and in some cases deep = and troubling change - we want to broaden our membership, our = diversity, and our reach into all forms of media. =20 We believe that IRE is crucial to the future of excellence in = journalism. IRE provides the most practical training and resources for journalists = around the world. We support the best in public service journalism. And = we provide a haven for journalists who believe in maintaining the = highest standards in the field. =20 To help us in this effort, we have applied for and received a grant that = would further support IRE for every NEW member who joins us. =20 The $100,000 Challenge Fund for Journalism grant from three journalism = foundations will provide a partial match for every new member we sign = up. =20 So, for every NEW professional member who joins for $60, we will = receive $30 from the Grant that will go to our general operating budget = to support the services we can offer our members. For every student = member who signs up for $25, we will receive $12.50. =20 If most of you signed up one new member we would easily enlist more = than 3,000 new members and bring in more than the $100,000 to support = and increase our support and services. =20 At the same time, the increase in membership would show that serious = investigative journalism will thrive no matter what changes may be = ahead. =20 Please let us know if you have any questions or need information on all = the benefits that IRE offers to its members by contacting John Green, = membership coordinator, at (573) 882-2772 or jgreen@ire.org. And for = your colleagues to sign up for IRE membership, they need only to = http://www.ire.org/membership/ ------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C74B94.630F0440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Plattsburgh journalism alumni. I = wanted to=20 share an e-mail with you from IRE (Investigative Reporters and Editors), = an=20 organization to which I belong. It is currently undergoing a membership = drive. I=20 sing the praises of the organization and encourage you to consider = becoming a=20 member to take advantage of its resources, which you can browse at www.ire.org .
--Shawn Murphy, Associate Professor, = Journalism=20 Department, SUNY Plattsburgh
 
----------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------

To IRE members:

 

We are launching our first membership drive in a = decade=20 and we  are asking for your help.

 

We are asking that each IRE member encourage = at =20 least one colleague or friend in journalism to join IRE.

 

In a time of  industry change in our = profession - and=20 in some cases deep and troubling change  - we want to broaden our=20 membership, our diversity, and our reach into all forms  of=20 media.

 

We believe that IRE is crucial to the future of = excellence=20 in journalism.

IRE provides the most practical training and = resources for=20 journalists around  the world. We support the best in public = service=20 journalism. And we provide a  haven for journalists who believe in=20 maintaining the highest standards in the  field.

 

To help us in this effort, we have applied for = and=20 received a grant that would further support IRE for every NEW member who = joins=20 us.

 

The $100,000  Challenge Fund for Journalism = grant=20 from three journalism foundations will  provide a partial match for = every=20 new member we sign up.

 

So, for every NEW  professional member who = joins for=20 $60, we will receive $30 from the Grant that  will go to our = general=20 operating budget to support the services we can  offer our = members.=20 For every student member who signs up for $25, we will  receive=20 $12.50.

 

If most of you signed up one new member we would = easily=20 enlist  more than 3,000 new members and bring in more than the = $100,000 to=20 support and increase our support and services.

 

At the same time, the increase  in = membership would=20 show that serious investigative journalism will thrive no  matter = what=20 changes may be ahead.

 

Please let us know if you have  any = questions or need=20 information on all the benefits that IRE offers to its  members by=20 contacting John Green, membership coordinator, at (573) 882-2772 = or  jgreen@ire.org. And for  your = colleagues=20 to sign up for IRE membership,  they need only to http://www.ire.org/membership/

------=_NextPart_000_0159_01C74B94.630F0440-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Feb 8 15:04:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2DDA33E3 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DDB4004805 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00698-08 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 554E84002F4E for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:19:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <017201c74bbe$6a676960$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:19:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016F_01C74B94.818A3570" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Rochester weekly startup X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:04:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C74B94.818A3570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable greetings folks, south of rochester in livingston county i am contemplating starting a weekly paper that would eventually bleed into the rocheste area. the paper will have a heavy sports section focusing on the area high school sports. there are two tiny weekly papers in livingston county but they are pretty poor so the cometition wouldnt be a threat. the main paper the Democrate and Chronicle doesnt really touch the HS sports in livingston county. the paper would be a tabloid with strong colorful pictures and some heavy investigae reporting into the high use of drug use and suicide. so please feel free to give me some feedback if you would like to consider getting involved give me a call on my cell 347-668-2874. best wishes --=20 josh williams freelance photographer ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C74B94.818A3570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
greetings=20 folks,

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------=_NextPart_000_016F_01C74B94.818A3570-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Fri Feb 9 10:57:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A4BA33E3 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 10:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDC44000678 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28733-08 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 406844000645 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:12:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001401c74c65$0b48d980$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:12:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C74C3B.225D74C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] first spring issue of CP X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:57:28 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C74C3B.225D74C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI, the first issue of the spring semester's Cardinal Points is online = at: http://www.cardinalpointsonline.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C74C3B.225D74C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FYI, the first issue of the spring = semester's=20 Cardinal Points is online at:
 
http://www.cardinalpointson= line.com/
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C74C3B.225D74C0-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu Feb 15 10:37:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21278A33E3 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA6F4002681 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:52:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22962-01 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF07340221A3 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:27:17 -0500 Message-ID: <20070214222717.2jrpbzl9ss84ossk@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:27:17 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] blizzard coverage in CP X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:37:40 -0000 Read about the blizzard, still in progress, in Cardinal Points at... http://www.cardinalpointsonline.com/ From danshep233@gmail.com Thu Feb 15 19:33:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D4EA33E3 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a4so1276962nfc for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:48:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IFfQQ15z/VB73sO2BaGQThT77YZROwETFxm+ztkY60SUuLxAI2KAqDZDyTOuVjAjCMrkDNBoeIpG6cbpKBKCHG/df+SWcx+6lC+kJMGuFcT9NIFtvSNOScfohcYA7TxwWbFuyEp2yXI0w2LukKGiOJvS4PxH2OH8J0pP/VCVakA= Received: by 10.82.111.8 with SMTP id j8mr3989260buc.1171586931497; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.161.12 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:48:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <846170520702151648g32c3cdf1wf84939d460901bfe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:48:51 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_139518_20772546.1171586931471" From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] New issue of Cardinal Points X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:33:38 -0000 ------=_Part_139518_20772546.1171586931471 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cardinal Points' newest issue discusses a new alumni center on campus, the Blizzard of 2007 and a student arrest for making fake IDs on campus. Ever curious about the one-way mirrors in Sibley Hall? Read the Fuse section. A new CP available online tonight at www.CardinalPointsOnline.com. If there's any alumni who have comments, or things they've seen online and would like changed, contact me at danshep233@gmail.com Dan Shepard Cardinal Points Editor in Chief ------=_Part_139518_20772546.1171586931471 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cardinal Points' newest issue discusses a new alumni center on campus, the Blizzard of 2007 and a student arrest for making fake IDs on campus. Ever curious about the one-way mirrors in Sibley Hall? Read the Fuse section. A new CP available online tonight at www.CardinalPointsOnline.com.

If there's any alumni who have comments, or things they've seen online and would like changed, contact me at danshep233@gmail.com

Dan Shepard
Cardinal Points
Editor in Chief
------=_Part_139518_20772546.1171586931471-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Sat Feb 24 22:20:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7ECA33E3 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33DF4005875 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25121-05 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF10400586E for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:36:34 -0500 Message-ID: <20070224223634.czf75lp7kksg8484@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:36:34 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] CP Sports: B-ball team going to NCAA tourney X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 03:20:37 -0000 Breaking News Story -------------------- BREAKING NEWS: Men's basketball defeats Brockport The men's basketball team is headed to the NCAA Division III tournament with its 80-75 win Saturday against Brockport. Read full story at: www.cardinalpointsonline.com From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Fri Mar 2 23:14:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CF0A33E3 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73B1400A18C for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27677-06 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE95D4000691 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:31:20 -0500 Message-ID: <20070302233120.c8cs6m7qio00s44c@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:31:20 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] latest CP online: rape reports X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 04:14:48 -0000 Breaking News Story -------------------- BREAKING NEWS: Woman allegedly raped in city last weekend by Ryan Hutchins Cardinal Points has received information that a woman was apparently gang-raped last weekend in the City of Plattsburgh. The information, which Cardinal Points believes to be credible, follows rumors that as many as eight women had been raped in the city since mid-January. www.cardinalpointsonline.com From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Sat Mar 3 23:04:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1106A33E3 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:04:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DBF400BB65 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29675-03 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372E3400BB63 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:20:55 -0500 Message-ID: <20070303232055.j0tqystu884k4c4s@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:20:55 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Breaking News: sports playoff results X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 04:04:18 -0000 Extra, extra, read all about it! Read about results of weekend playoffs in men's and women's hockey as well as men's basketball at: www.cardinalpointsonline.com From libby.h.schirmer@lexisnexis.com Mon Mar 5 11:59:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from mx03.lexisnexis.com (mx03.lexisnexis.com [198.185.18.46]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C758A33E3 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate2.lexis-nexis.com ([138.12.44.45]) by mx03.lexisnexis.com with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2007 12:16:24 -0500 Received: from lngalbexcp000.legal.regn.net (LNGALBEXCP000.BENDER.COM [198.176.99.51])l25HG8kR030831 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:16:22 -0500 Received: from LNGALBEXCP01VA.legal.regn.net ([198.176.99.44]) by lngalbexcp000.legal.regn.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:16:11 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] latest CP online: rape reports Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:16:10 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070302233120.c8cs6m7qio00s44c@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [jou-alumni] latest CP online: rape reports Thread-Index: AcddTTPs/JXHoH/TRhSFyM+nJwqBSwB/KodQ To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2007 17:16:11.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[F89E1730:01C75F49] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 138.12.44.45 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:59:38 -0000 Thought maybe you would want to correct that line for Ryan...it looks like he did the raping...just a suggestion... -----Original Message----- From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:31 PM To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] latest CP online: rape reports Breaking News Story -------------------- BREAKING NEWS: Woman allegedly raped in city last weekend by Ryan Hutchins Cardinal Points has received information that a woman was apparently gang-raped last weekend in the City of Plattsburgh. The information, which Cardinal Points believes to be credible, follows rumors that as many as eight women had been raped in the city since mid-January. www.cardinalpointsonline.com _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Tue Apr 3 12:37:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1250A33E3 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3D0400278F for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12698-05 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E0474002787 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005701c77611$16abd4f0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:56:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01C775EF.8F930900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] CP awards from NYPA X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:37:36 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C775EF.8F930900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At the annual conference of the New York Press Association (NYPA) this = past weekend in Saratoga Springs, Cardinal Points received the following = awards: * 2 second place awards for photography (both to Michael Pitts) * 2nd place for best Website (after only one semester online!) * 3rd place for sports coverage (to entire staff) Congratulations to the writers, photographers and Web designers who = continue to make Cardinal Points the quality college newspaper that it = is! Shawn Murphy Faculty Adviser ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C775EF.8F930900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
At the annual conference of the New York Press Association (NYPA) = this past=20 weekend in Saratoga Springs, Cardinal Points received the following=20 awards:
 
* 2 second place awards for photography (both to Michael = Pitts)
* 2nd=20 place for best Website (after only one semester online!)
* 3rd place = for=20 sports coverage (to entire staff)
 
Congratulations to the writers, photographers and Web = designers who=20 continue to make Cardinal Points the quality college newspaper that it = is!
 
Shawn Murphy
Faculty Adviser

------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C775EF.8F930900-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Tue Apr 10 10:09:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E74A33E3 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563174002733 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31174-04 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A1F840026DF for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003601c77b7c$b6f0e430$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:29:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C77B5B.2FDCD330" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Steve Sowley? X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:09:50 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C77B5B.2FDCD330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would anyone have Steve Sowley's contact information? The e-mail address = I had is no longer active. In advance, thanks. Shawn Murphy shawn.murphy@plattsburgh.edu ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C77B5B.2FDCD330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would anyone have Steve Sowley's = contact=20 information? The e-mail address I had is no longer active. In advance,=20 thanks.
Shawn Murphy
shawn.murphy@plattsburgh.edu=
 
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C77B5B.2FDCD330-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Wed Apr 11 10:28:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0165FA33E3 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841C2400275B; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16514-10; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E7FC4002756; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001b01c77c48$7d0aae50$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:48:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C77C26.F5E5FB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: Shawn Murphy From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] 92-96 CP issues sought X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:28:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C77C26.F5E5FB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Debra Kimok at the SUNY Plattsburgh Special Collections office of = Feinberg Library is in the process of digitizing every issue of Cardinal = Points back to 1969, which eventually will be an invaluable research = tool for generations of reporters and historians. She is noting a gap = between the years 1992 and 1996.=20 CP has no digital copies of any of these issues stored on a computer, = and it has very few (and scattered) print copies of issues during these = years. So I appeal to readers of this Listserv. Do any of you have any issues of Cardinal Points from 1992 to 1996. If = so, what issues/semesters do you have?Please let me know so that some = arrangement can be made to borrow those issues from you. Thank you. Shawn Murphy Faculty Adviser to Cardinal Points ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C77C26.F5E5FB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Debra Kimok at the SUNY Plattsburgh = Special=20 Collections office of Feinberg Library is in the process of digitizing = every=20 issue of Cardinal Points back to 1969, which eventually will be an = invaluable=20 research tool for generations of reporters and historians. She is noting = a gap=20 between the years 1992 and 1996.
 
CP has no digital copies of any of these issues stored on a = computer, and=20 it has very few (and scattered) print copies of issues during these = years. So I=20 appeal to readers of this Listserv.
 
Do any of you have any issues of = Cardinal Points=20 from 1992 to 1996. If so, what issues/semesters do you have?Please let = me know=20 so that some arrangement can be made to borrow those issues from you. = Thank=20 you.
 
Shawn Murphy
Faculty Adviser to Cardinal Points
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C77C26.F5E5FB80-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Fri Apr 13 22:45:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8869A33E3 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AC140090F2 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21749-05 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243FA40090FC for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:05:32 -0400 Message-ID: <20070413230532.rp91muvkskks0gs4@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:05:32 -0400 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] IRE and GuideStar team up X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:45:18 -0000 Here is an announcement from IRE that may be of interest to investigative reporters reading this Listserv. 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For details, see http://www.ire.org/membership/Guidestar From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Tue Apr 17 15:09:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB58A33E3 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372AC4005874 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30501-01 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 094004002739 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <008101c78126$c8083570$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:29:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007E_01C78105.40F1B370" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] IRE conference: money and politics X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:09:22 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C78105.40F1B370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please join us for this workshop that includes a complimentary one-year = IRE membership. We hope you'll help us get the word out by forwarding = this e-mail to your non-IRE associates. Thanks!=20 Money in Politics: Following the moneytrail in 2008 elections=20 May 18-19, 2007 (Friday & Saturday) Host: Orlando Sentinel This workshop is being made possible in part by a grant from Carnegie = Corporation of New York. Saturday:=20 At this one day workshop, learn how to follow the money and its = influence after the election. The workshop will emphasize money in local = and state elections on the horizon, including the impact of 527 = organizations at those levels. The workshop is limited to the first 60 = people to register.=20 Sunday:=20 Optional Computer-Assisted Reporting Training will be offered the second = half-day. This hands-on, computer-assisted reporting class will build = data analysis skills for reporters covering money in politics. The class = will use federal and state-level data, including "527" data from the = IRS. Instructors will emphasize story ideas generated by the = analysis.The instructor will emphasize story ideas generated by the = analysis. The hands-on training is limited to the first 18 people to = sign up.=20 Workshop Fees (includes a one-year IRE membership): $40 for = professionals, $20 for students=20 Location: Orlando Sentinel Conference Center, 633 N. Orange Ave., = (corner of Orange Ave. and Colonial Dr.), Orlando, FL 32801=20 Workshop Web site: http://www.ire.org/training/MIP07OS.html Preliminary Schedule: http://www.ire.org/training/MIP07OSschedule.html Register Today: = https://www.ire.org/cgi-bin/formengine.cgi?form=3DMIPOS07 ***************************=20 IRE's extensive training, like the event noted here, depends upon = continued support from journalists and those interested in investigative = journalism. Help us build a $5 million endowment so IRE can deliver = training and services for decades to come! Contact Jennifer Erickson at = jennifer@ire.org=20 IRE Office ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C78105.40F1B370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please join = us for=20 this workshop that includes a complimentary one-year IRE membership. We = hope=20 you'll help us get the word out by forwarding this e-mail to your = non-IRE=20 associates. Thanks!

Money in Politics: Following the moneytrail = in 2008=20 elections

May 18-19, 2007 (Friday & Saturday)

Host: = Orlando=20 Sentinel

This workshop is being made possible in part by a grant = from=20 Carnegie Corporation of New York.

Saturday:
At this one = day=20 workshop, learn how to follow the money and its influence after the = election.=20 The workshop will emphasize money in local and state elections on the = horizon,=20 including the impact of 527 organizations at those levels. The workshop = is=20 limited to the first 60 people to register.

Sunday:=20
Optional=20 Computer-Assisted Reporting Training will be offered the second = half-day. This=20 hands-on, computer-assisted reporting class will build data analysis = skills for=20 reporters covering money in politics. The class will use federal and = state-level=20 data, including "527" data from the IRS. Instructors will emphasize = story ideas=20 generated by the analysis.The instructor will emphasize story ideas = generated by=20 the analysis. The hands-on training is limited to the first 18 people to = sign=20 up.

Workshop = Fees=20 (includes a one-year IRE membership): $40 for professionals, $20 for = students=20

Location: Orlando Sentinel Conference Center, 633 N. Orange = Ave.,=20 (corner of Orange Ave. and Colonial Dr.), Orlando, FL 32801 =

Workshop Web=20 site: http://www.ire.org/trai= ning/MIP07OS.html

Preliminary=20 Schedule: http://www.ire.= org/training/MIP07OSschedule.html

Register=20 Today: https:= //www.ire.org/cgi-bin/formengine.cgi?form=3DMIPOS07
**************= *************=20
IRE's extensive training, like the event noted here, depends upon = continued=20 support from journalists and those interested in investigative = journalism. Help=20 us build a $5 million endowment so IRE can deliver training and services = for=20 decades to come! Contact Jennifer Erickson at jennifer@ire.org =

IRE=20 Office

------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C78105.40F1B370-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Tue Apr 17 15:10:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF00A33E3 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9475240002DD for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30430-06 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 684994002739 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <009601c78126$e9a47cc0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0093_01C78105.62893FD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] IRE: $ & politics, NYC X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:10:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C78105.62893FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please join us for this workshop that includes a complimentary one-year = IRE membership. We hope you'll help us get the word out by forwarding = this e-mail to your non-IRE associates. Thanks!=20 Money in Politics: Following the moneytrail in 2008 elections=20 May 5-6, 2007 Host: City University of New York This workshop is being made possible in part by a grant from Carnegie = Corporation of New York. Saturday:=20 At this one day workshop, learn how to follow the money and its = influence after the election. The workshop will emphasize money in local = and state elections on the horizon, including the impact of 527 = organizations at those levels. The workshop is limited to the first 50 = people to register.=20 Sunday:=20 Optional Computer-Assisted Reporting Training will be offered the second = half-day. This hands-on, computer-assisted reporting class will build = data analysis skills for reporters covering money in politics. The class = will use federal and state-level data, including "527" data from the = IRS. Instructors will emphasize story ideas generated by the = analysis.The instructor will emphasize story ideas generated by the = analysis. The hands-on training is limited to the first 20 people to = sign up.=20 Workshop Fees (includes a one-year IRE membership): $40 for = professionals, $20 for students=20 Location: City University of New York (CUNY), Graduate School of = Journalism, 230 West 41st Street, Third Floor Lecture Hall, New York, = N.Y. 10036=20 Workshop Web site: http://www.ire.org/training/MIP07CUNY.html Preliminary Schedule: http://www.ire.org/training/MIP07CUNYschedule.html Register Today: = https://www.ire.org/cgi-bin/formengine.cgi?form=3DMIPCUNY07 ***************************=20 IRE's extensive training, like the event noted here, depends upon = continued support from journalists and those interested in investigative = journalism. Help us build a $5 million endowment so IRE can deliver = training and services for decades to come! Contact Jennifer Erickson at = jennifer@ire.org=20 IRE Office=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C78105.62893FD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please join = us for=20 this workshop that includes a complimentary one-year IRE membership. We = hope=20 you'll help us get the word out by forwarding this e-mail to your = non-IRE=20 associates. Thanks!

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May 5-6, 2007

Host: City University of New=20 York

This workshop is being made possible in part by a grant from = Carnegie Corporation of New York.

Saturday:
At this one = day=20 workshop, learn how to follow the money and its influence after the = election.=20 The workshop will emphasize money in local and state elections on the = horizon,=20 including the impact of 527 organizations at those levels. The workshop = is=20 limited to the first 50 people to register.

Sunday:=20
Optional=20 Computer-Assisted Reporting Training will be offered the second = half-day. This=20 hands-on, computer-assisted reporting class will build data analysis = skills for=20 reporters covering money in politics. The class will use federal and = state-level=20 data, including "527" data from the IRS. Instructors will emphasize = story ideas=20 generated by the analysis.The instructor will emphasize story ideas = generated by=20 the analysis. The hands-on training is limited to the first 20 people to = sign=20 up.

Workshop = Fees=20 (includes a one-year IRE membership): $40 for professionals, $20 for = students=20

Location: City University of New York (CUNY), Graduate School of = Journalism, 230 West 41st Street, Third Floor Lecture Hall, New York, = N.Y. 10036=20

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------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C78105.62893FD0-- From danshep233@gmail.com Thu Apr 19 17:16:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344D5A33E3 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so672105ugf for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=DZa7A05uxCyeS23Xqap6nwwRC6CnTaib6mfaChKTKfxvM2C+D2QYJwzCNVdAw+sy1X3gMecsTfjl8YkQVg6jjLpCMZ9w20e3PrpcE33S1ut49ayoNMaue+jyS79bDGVqk6TKvnVnIfbgdDp8PAbNbNkZnr0AlM72SJzldSw6d2E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=W7c6NKdRdAI5Fp8nr85WnKAM1pyV7IbiDcnDnix2Zo1iuzXfxF+i3+zDROuKwTm4dYFiec7za/Lm8cQ2UPdv3QWEzJgT9N+2tf0ByDB8tKKRbRbZYZOl301WI/Tm2uYustLaZfLZ01UR+ZeQt5KQQk5t6kVjF/BZOfsWMQyymfw= Received: by 10.78.150.7 with SMTP id x7mr395294hud.1177018658817; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.204.15 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <846170520704191437t2089e390t24006f3792b3c586@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:37:38 -0400 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_55161_9547792.1177018658775" From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] New edition of Cardinal Points - V-Tech coverage X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:16:51 -0000 ------=_Part_55161_9547792.1177018658775 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline "Today, we are all Hokies" With the tragedy that occurred this past Monday, Cardinal Points dedicated page one and two solely to the deadliest shooting spree in U.S. history. Because we were unable to get someone to Virginia this past week, we are running a U-Wire story about the convocation service, but we also have local coverage. "Are We Safe" is a look at what procedures our school has in place. A staff reporter also put together a student response piece, as well as a faculty response piece. I'll see what I can do about putting the front page on the Web site but check at www.cardinalpointsonline.com for CP's coverage of the devastating tragedy in Virginia this past week. -Dan Shepard editor in chief ------=_Part_55161_9547792.1177018658775 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline "Today, we are all Hokies"

With the tragedy that occurred this past Monday, Cardinal Points dedicated page one and two solely to the deadliest shooting spree in U.S. history. Because we were unable to get someone to Virginia this past week, we are running a U-Wire story about the convocation service, but we also have local coverage.

"Are We Safe" is a look at what procedures our school has in place. A staff reporter also put together a student response piece, as well as a faculty response piece. I'll see what I can do about putting the front page on the Web site but check at www.cardinalpointsonline.com for CP's coverage of the devastating tragedy in Virginia this past week.

-Dan Shepard
editor in chief


------=_Part_55161_9547792.1177018658775-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Thu May 10 15:08:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9336EA33E3 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2994002A8E; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12697-01; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001C24002A7E; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2007 15:31:07 -0400 Message-ID: <20070510153107.0s98tr2vsgs00k08@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:31:07 -0400 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: cp@cardinalpointsonline.com From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] CP on US News & World Report Web site X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 19:08:33 -0000 FYI, there is a mention of an article from the last issue of Cardinal Points in the latest online issue of US News & World Report. See it here: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/tools/papertrail/070420/professors_what_would_i_do_1.htm Great coverage about Benjamin Pomerance's article about Kent State memorial. For editors at CP reading this message, please forward to Benjamin. Shawn Murphy Adviser to CP From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Fri May 11 12:48:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0496A33E3 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:48:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AB94002B80 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21318-05 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 433484002B73 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00c301c793ef$5ecf4fe0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C793CD.D7BB3EE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 16:48:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C793CD.D7BB3EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what = American journalism could become." Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups = propose outsourcing journalists. -- Shawn Murphy Calif. Web site outsources reporting=20 By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET=20 The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist = based in India to report on the city government and political scene of = Pasadena, California, USA." A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and = sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than = the telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as = technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes = the next frontier: local journalism. James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site = pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in = India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City = Council meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea = makes business sense because of India's lower labor costs. "I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of = journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major = problem for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. = "Whether you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still = just a phone call or e-mail away from the interview."=20 The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to = appear Friday. The plan has its doubters. "Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not = only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the = events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern = California journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly = sad picture of what American journalism could become." It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA = professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and = graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated = reporting, he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing = than the labor savings are worth. This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology = capital of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news = releases. Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - = work that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets = they cover. Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets = about 45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up = until now, his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of = craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian reporters, = one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California = at Berkeley. He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases = and event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps = eventually to investigative reports.=20 Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an Indian = journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces = the expected 15 weekly articles. Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't = pose problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, = "Local government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local = business who they can hire and where those employees should live."=20 ___=20 Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, = contributed to this report.=20 ___=20 On the Net:=20 The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com=20 The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C793CD.D7BB3EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As was said in the article, "This is a = truly sad=20 picture of what American journalism could become."
 
Be sure to fight this at your news = organization=20 should the higher-ups propose outsourcing journalists.

-- Shawn Murphy
 
 

Calif. Web site outsources = reporting=20

By JUSTIN = PRITCHARD,=20 Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM = ET=20
The job posting was a=20 head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist based in India to report = on the=20 city government and political scene of Pasadena, California,=20 USA."
A reporter half a world = away=20 covering local street-light contracts and sewer repairs? A reporter who = has=20 never gotten closer to Pasadena than the telecast of the Rose Bowl=20 parade?
Outsourcing first claimed=20 manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as technical support, airline = reservations and tax preparation. Now comes the next frontier: local=20 journalism.
James Macpherson, editor = and=20 publisher of the two-year-old Web site pasadenanow.com, = acknowledged=20 it sounds strange to have journalists in India cover news in this = wealthy city=20 just outside Los Angeles.
But he said = it can be=20 done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City Council meetings can be = watched=20 over the Internet. And he said the idea makes business sense because of = India's=20 lower labor costs.
"I think it could be a = significant=20 way to increase the quality of journalism on the local level without the = expense=20 that is a major problem for local publications," said the 51-year-old = Pasadena=20 native. "Whether you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, = you're still=20 just a phone call or e-mail away from the interview."
The first articles, some = of which=20 will carry bylines, are slated to appear=20 Friday.
The plan has its=20 doubters.
"Nobody in their right = mind would=20 trust the reporting of people who not only don't know the institutions = but=20 aren't even there to witness the events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, = a=20 University of Southern California journalism professor and Pasadena = resident.=20 "This is a truly sad picture of what American journalism could=20 become."
It is a shaky business = proposition=20 as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA professor of technology and = strategy who=20 outsources copy editing and graphics work to Indian businesses. If the = goal is=20 sophisticated reporting, he said, Macpherson could end up spending more = time=20 editing than the labor savings are = worth.
This is not=20 the first time media jobs have been shipped to=20 India.

The British news agency = Reuters runs=20 an operation in the technology capital of Bangalore that churns out Wall = Street=20 stories based on news releases.
Macpherson = appears to=20 be the first to outsource community journalism =97 work that by = definition has=20 been done by reporters who walk the streets they=20 cover.
Macphersons said his Web = site, which=20 he runs out of his house, gets about 45,000 unique readers per month but = is not=20 yet profitable. Up until now, his main help has consisted of his wife = and an=20 intern.
Macpherson posted the = help-wanted ad=20 Monday on the Indian edition of craigslist.org. = Within days, he=20 said, he had hired two Indian reporters, one a graduate of the = journalism school=20 at the University of California at = Berkeley.
He wants=20 them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases and = event=20 listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps = eventually to=20 investigative reports.
Projected annual cost: = $20,800 for=20 the pair. Not bad wages for an Indian journalist and cheap by U.S. = standards,=20 especially if each one produces the expected 15 weekly=20 articles.
Pasadena city spokeswoman = Ann Erdman=20 said coverage from afar shouldn't pose problems if the articles are = well-edited.=20 In any case, she said, "Local government is certainly not in the = practice of=20 dictating to local business who they can hire and where those employees = should=20 live."
___=20
Associated Press Writer = Matthew=20 Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, contributed to this report.=20
___=20
On the Net:=20
The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com =
The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/32554= 2906.html
------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C793CD.D7BB3EE0-- From abmccall@hotmail.com Fri May 11 13:20:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from bay0-omc3-s33.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s33.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.233]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930BCA33E3 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.11.84]) by bay0-omc3-s33.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Fri, 11 May 2007 10:42:50 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 11 May 2007 10:42:50 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.11.123 by by123fd.bay123.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 11 May 2007 17:42:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.186.191.154] X-Originating-Email: [abmccall@hotmail.com] X-Sender: abmccall@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <00c301c793ef$5ecf4fe0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:42:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2007 17:42:50.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB7CFAD0:01C793F3] From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:20:09 -0000 shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: >Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > >As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what American >journalism could become." > >Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups >propose outsourcing journalists. > > >-- Shawn Murphy > > >Calif. Web site outsources reporting >By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET >The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist based >in India to report on the city government and political scene of Pasadena, >California, USA." >A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and >sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than the >telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? >Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as >technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes the >next frontier: local journalism. >James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site >pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in >India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. >But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City Council >meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes >business sense because of India's lower labor costs. >"I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of >journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major problem >for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether >you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a phone >call or e-mail away from the interview." >The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to appear >Friday. >The plan has its doubters. >"Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not >only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the >events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern California >journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad picture of >what American journalism could become." >It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA >professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and >graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated reporting, >he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the labor >savings are worth. >This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. >The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology capital >of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news releases. >Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - work >that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they >cover. >Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets about >45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until now, >his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. >Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of >craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian reporters, >one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California at >Berkeley. >He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases and >event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps >eventually to investigative reports. >Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an Indian >journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces the >expected 15 weekly articles. >Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't pose >problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local >government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local business >who they can hire and where those employees should live." >___ >Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, contributed >to this report. >___ >On the Net: >The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com >The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html >_______________________________________________ >Journalism-alumni mailing list >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine’s 2007 editors’ choice for best Web mail—award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 From stomcho@th-record.com Fri May 11 13:28:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from oniinmr01.ottaway.com (oniinmr01.ottaway.com [204.27.188.22]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822EDA33E3 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onie2kmb02.win.dowjones.net ([172.20.2.102]) by oniinmr01.ottaway.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2007 13:50:52 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:50:55 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Thread-Index: AceT89Z6plaZ87ayQpeiABpDTCdecwAAOAnQ To: From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:28:11 -0000 James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what the term "journalistic integrity" means. -----Original Message----- From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: >Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > >As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what American=20 >journalism could become." > >Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups=20 >propose outsourcing journalists. > > >-- Shawn Murphy > > >Calif. Web site outsources reporting >By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET >The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist based=20 >in India to report on the city government and political scene of Pasadena,=20 >California, USA." >A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and=20 >sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than the=20 >telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? >Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as >technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes the=20 >next frontier: local journalism. >James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site=20 >pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in=20 >India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. >But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City Council=20 >meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes=20 >business sense because of India's lower labor costs. >"I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of=20 >journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major problem=20 >for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether >you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a phone=20 >call or e-mail away from the interview." >The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to appear=20 >Friday. >The plan has its doubters. >"Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not >only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the=20 >events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern California=20 >journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad picture of=20 >what American journalism could become." >It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA >professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and=20 >graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated reporting,=20 >he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the labor=20 >savings are worth. >This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. >The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology capital=20 >of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news releases. >Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - work=20 >that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they >cover. >Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets about=20 >45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until now,=20 >his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. >Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of=20 >craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian reporters,=20 >one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California at=20 >Berkeley. >He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases and=20 >event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps=20 >eventually to investigative reports. >Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an Indian=20 >journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces the=20 >expected 15 weekly articles. >Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't pose=20 >problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local >government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local business=20 >who they can hire and where those employees should live." >___ >Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, contributed=20 >to this report. >___ >On the Net: >The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com >The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html >_______________________________________________ >Journalism-alumni mailing list >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail-award-winning Windows=20 Live Hotmail.=20 http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_m= igr ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Fri May 11 13:39:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC79A33E3 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58C84002B89 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 14:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23441-05 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 14:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MURPHYSW (psuc-dhcp-122-187.psuc.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.122.187]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id F21C04002B13 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 14:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <011e01c793f6$6d2493a0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> To: References: Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:01:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:39:00 -0000 I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a journalist. He's concerned with the bottom line, not the public service that defines the career. --Shawn Murphy ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what the term "journalistic integrity" means. -----Original Message----- From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: >Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > >As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what American >journalism could become." > >Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups >propose outsourcing journalists. > > >-- Shawn Murphy > > >Calif. Web site outsources reporting >By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET >The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist based >in India to report on the city government and political scene of Pasadena, >California, USA." >A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and >sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than the >telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? >Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as >technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes the >next frontier: local journalism. >James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site >pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in >India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. >But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City Council >meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes >business sense because of India's lower labor costs. >"I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of >journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major problem >for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether >you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a phone >call or e-mail away from the interview." >The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to appear >Friday. >The plan has its doubters. >"Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not >only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the >events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern California >journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad picture of >what American journalism could become." >It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA >professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and >graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated reporting, >he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the labor >savings are worth. >This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. >The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology capital >of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news releases. >Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - work >that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they >cover. >Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets about >45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until now, >his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. >Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of >craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian reporters, >one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California at >Berkeley. >He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases and >event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps >eventually to investigative reports. >Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an Indian >journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces the >expected 15 weekly articles. >Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't pose >problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local >government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local business >who they can hire and where those employees should live." >___ >Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, contributed >to this report. >___ >On the Net: >The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com >The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html >_______________________________________________ >Journalism-alumni mailing list >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail-award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migr ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni From stomcho@th-record.com Fri May 11 13:46:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from oniinmr01.ottaway.com (oniinmr01.ottaway.com [204.27.188.22]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9374BA33E6 for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 13:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onie2kmb02.win.dowjones.net ([172.20.2.102]) by oniinmr01.ottaway.com with ESMTP; 11 May 2007 14:08:53 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:08:56 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <011e01c793f6$6d2493a0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Thread-Index: AceT9nhwP2DFoiWQSWuzOrAOk7ho4QAAFSlQ To: From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:46:11 -0000 The topic of journalistic integrity has always been a priority at my paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge topic last week when Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow Jones who owns us. Thank God the Bancroft family knows what that term means. -----Original Message----- From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a journalist. He's concerned with the bottom line, not the public service that defines the career. --Shawn Murphy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what the term "journalistic integrity" means. -----Original Message----- From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: >Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > >As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what American >journalism could become." > >Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups >propose outsourcing journalists. > > >-- Shawn Murphy > > >Calif. Web site outsources reporting >By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET >The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist based >in India to report on the city government and political scene of Pasadena, >California, USA." >A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and >sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than the >telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? >Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as >technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes the >next frontier: local journalism. >James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site >pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in >India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. >But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City Council >meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes >business sense because of India's lower labor costs. >"I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of >journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major problem >for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether >you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a phone >call or e-mail away from the interview." >The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to appear >Friday. >The plan has its doubters. >"Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not >only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the >events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern California >journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad picture of >what American journalism could become." >It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA >professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and >graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated reporting, >he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the labor >savings are worth. >This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. >The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology capital >of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news releases. >Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - work >that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they >cover. >Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets about >45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until now, >his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. >Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of >craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian reporters, >one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California at >Berkeley. >He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases and >event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps >eventually to investigative reports. >Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an Indian >journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces the >expected 15 weekly articles. >Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't pose >problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local >government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local business >who they can hire and where those employees should live." >___ >Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, contributed >to this report. >___ >On the Net: >The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com >The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html >_______________________________________________ >Journalism-alumni mailing list >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail-award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_m= igr ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni From kholscher@gmail.com Sat May 12 18:27:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4680A33E3 for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 18:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c31so350003ana for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 15:50:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IxPA390nEis9Gx5naoMbg+hS5As9pGMcxTrmVsJELm6AeBsOH/0xtfFbXcNegEktg/AdAle3JJDE8loa7esMI5ZmiDvVHovd0NQIG0ow4Tl/XEMJfXtFvcXrkNSioRX9b8Jp3xj76Fl2lnShXkPVT/kZb66EaC+fLRZKKjvEXjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Hj19SMSz/1CbMJU4qxsWBWMxyFg7G/AfZtXUiCAULPL64rgvxFM/ML1TyQQVVvgkKQ01DdWWLv9EXwsEWQGzz8W62Q5fduDx2QhCVdVGxu9P7FlYxGsM81vEbkRczd/inQN5iwMQHke0mOv+sIW5WCThFkJ84yRvB9sqCudB2R4= Received: by 10.100.166.14 with SMTP id o14mr2796933ane.1179010216317; Sat, 12 May 2007 15:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.3.13 with HTTP; Sat, 12 May 2007 15:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:50:16 -0500 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu In-Reply-To: <20070512160004.A23D9A33E3@lists.plattsburgh.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_197288_11938421.1179010216245" References: <20070512160004.A23D9A33E3@lists.plattsburgh.edu> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Re: Journalism-alumni Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 22:27:29 -0000 ------=_Part_197288_11938421.1179010216245 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It isn't bad enough that budding journalists have difficulty affording to live on a career of passion. Journalism is not known for it's profitable income. But to remove the opportunity of that career all together by threatening it with outsourcing is preposterous. I agree with you all. McPherson is not only a business man, but he missed the part about ethics when he was learning his supposed journalistic craft. On 5/12/07, journalism-alumni-request@lists.plattsburgh.edu < journalism-alumni-request@lists.plattsburgh.edu> wrote: > > Send Journalism-alumni mailing list submissions to > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > journalism-alumni-request@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > journalism-alumni-owner@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Journalism-alumni digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: outsourcing journalists > 2. RE: outsourcing journalists > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:01:40 -0400 > From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > To: > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > Message-ID: <011e01c793f6$6d2493a0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> > References: < > BF763B152FEFEA48B2CF38049A3E35EF16842F@ONIE2KMB02.win.dowjones.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Precedence: list > Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Message: 1 > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a journalist. He's concerned > with > the bottom line, not the public service that defines the career. > --Shawn Murphy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > -----Original Message----- > From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh > > > >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >To: > >Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > >Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > > > >As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what > American > >journalism could become." > > > >Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups > >propose outsourcing journalists. > > > > > >-- Shawn Murphy > > > > > >Calif. Web site outsources reporting > >By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET > >The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist > based > >in India to report on the city government and political scene of > Pasadena, > >California, USA." > >A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and > >sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than > the > >telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? > >Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as > > >technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes > the > >next frontier: local journalism. > >James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site > >pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in > >India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. > >But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City > Council > >meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes > >business sense because of India's lower labor costs. > >"I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of > >journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major > problem > >for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether > > >you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a > phone > >call or e-mail away from the interview." > >The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to > appear > >Friday. > >The plan has its doubters. > >"Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not > > >only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the > >events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern > California > >journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad > picture of > >what American journalism could become." > >It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA > > >professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and > >graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated > reporting, > >he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the > labor > >savings are worth. > >This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. > >The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology > capital > >of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news > releases. > >Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - > work > >that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they > > >cover. > >Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets > about > >45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until > now, > >his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. > >Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of > >craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian > reporters, > >one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California > at > >Berkeley. > >He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases > and > >event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps > >eventually to investigative reports. > >Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an > Indian > >journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces > the > >expected 15 weekly articles. > >Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't > pose > >problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local > > >government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local > business > >who they can hire and where those employees should live." > >___ > >Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, > contributed > >to this report. > >___ > >On the Net: > >The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com > >The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Journalism-alumni mailing list > >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _________________________________________________________________ > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail-award-winning > Windows > Live Hotmail. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migr > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:08:56 -0400 > From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > To: > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > Message-ID: < > BF763B152FEFEA48B2CF38049A3E35EF168436@ONIE2KMB02.win.dowjones.net> > In-Reply-To: <011e01c793f6$6d2493a0$bb7a8e89@plattsburgh.ntds> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="US-ASCII" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Precedence: list > Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Message: 2 > > The topic of journalistic integrity has always been a priority at my > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge topic last week when > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow Jones who owns us. Thank > God the Bancroft family knows what that term means. > > -----Original Message----- > From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a journalist. He's concerned > with > the bottom line, not the public service that defines the career. > --Shawn Murphy > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > -----Original Message----- > From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh > > > >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >To: > >Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > >Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > > > >As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what > American > >journalism could become." > > > >Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups > >propose outsourcing journalists. > > > > > >-- Shawn Murphy > > > > > >Calif. Web site outsources reporting > >By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET > >The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist > based > >in India to report on the city government and political scene of > Pasadena, > >California, USA." > >A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and > >sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than > the > >telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? > >Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as > > >technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes > the > >next frontier: local journalism. > >James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site > >pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in > >India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. > >But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City > Council > >meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes > >business sense because of India's lower labor costs. > >"I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of > >journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major > problem > >for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether > > >you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a > phone > >call or e-mail away from the interview." > >The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to > appear > >Friday. > >The plan has its doubters. > >"Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not > > >only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the > >events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern > California > >journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad > picture of > >what American journalism could become." > >It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA > > >professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and > >graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated > reporting, > >he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the > labor > >savings are worth. > >This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. > >The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology > capital > >of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news > releases. > >Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - > work > >that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they > > >cover. > >Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets > about > >45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until > now, > >his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. > >Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of > >craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian > reporters, > >one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California > at > >Berkeley. > >He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases > and > >event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps > >eventually to investigative reports. > >Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an > Indian > >journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces > the > >expected 15 weekly articles. > >Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't > pose > >problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local > > >government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local > business > >who they can hire and where those employees should live." > >___ > >Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, > contributed > >to this report. > >___ > >On the Net: > >The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com > >The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Journalism-alumni mailing list > >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _________________________________________________________________ > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail-award-winning > Windows > Live Hotmail. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_m= > igr > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > End of Journalism-alumni Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 > *********************************************** > ------=_Part_197288_11938421.1179010216245 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
It isn't bad enough that budding journalists have difficulty affording to live on a career of passion. Journalism is not known for it's profitable income. But to remove the opportunity of that career all together by threatening it with outsourcing is preposterous. I agree with you all. McPherson is not only a business man, but he missed the part about ethics when he was learning his supposed journalistic craft.

 
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:01:40 -0400
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I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a journalist. He's concerned with
the bottom line, not the public service that defines the career.
--Shawn Murphy

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To: < journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists


James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what
the term "journalistic integrity" means.

-----Original Message-----
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journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM
To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists

shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh


>From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
>Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
>To: <journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu>
>Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists
>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400
>
>As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what
American
>journalism could become."
>
>Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups
>propose outsourcing journalists.
>
>
>-- Shawn Murphy
>
>
>Calif. Web site outsources reporting
>By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET
>The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist
based
>in India to report on the city government and political scene of
Pasadena,
>California, USA."
>A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and
>sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than
the
>telecast of the Rose Bowl parade?
>Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as

>technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes
the
>next frontier: local journalism.
>James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site
>pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in
>India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles.
>But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City
Council
>meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes
>business sense because of India's lower labor costs.
>"I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of
>journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major
problem
>for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether

>you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a
phone
>call or e-mail away from the interview."
>The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to
appear
>Friday.
>The plan has its doubters.
>"Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not

>only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the
>events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern
California
>journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad
picture of
>what American journalism could become."
>It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA

>professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and
>graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated
reporting,
>he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the
labor
>savings are worth.
>This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India.
>The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology
capital
>of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news
releases.
>Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism -
work
>that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they

>cover.
>Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets
about
>45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until
now,
>his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern.
>Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of
>craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian
reporters,
>one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California
at
>Berkeley.
>He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases
and
>event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps
>eventually to investigative reports.
>Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an
Indian
>journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces
the
>expected 15 weekly articles.
>Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't
pose
>problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local

>government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local
business
>who they can hire and where those employees should live."
>___
>Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India,
contributed
>to this report.
>___
>On the Net:
>The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com
>The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html


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Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:08:56 -0400
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The topic of journalistic integrity has always been a priority at my
paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge topic last week when
Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow Jones who owns us. Thank
God the Bancroft family knows what that term means.

-----Original Message-----
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I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a journalist. He's concerned
with
the bottom line, not the public service that defines the career.
--Shawn Murphy

----- Original Message -----=20
From: <journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu>
To: < journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists


James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what
the term "journalistic integrity" means.

-----Original Message-----
From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu
[mailto: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of
journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM
To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists

shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh


>From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
>Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu
>To: <journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu>
>Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists
>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400
>
>As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what
American
>journalism could become."
>
>Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups
>propose outsourcing journalists.
>
>
>-- Shawn Murphy
>
>
>Calif. Web site outsources reporting
>By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET
>The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist
based
>in India to report on the city government and political scene of
Pasadena,
>California, USA."
>A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and
>sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than
the
>telecast of the Rose Bowl parade?
>Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as

>technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes
the
>next frontier: local journalism.
>James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site
>pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in
>India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles.
>But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City
Council
>meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes
>business sense because of India's lower labor costs.
>"I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of
>journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major
problem
>for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether

>you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a
phone
>call or e-mail away from the interview."
>The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to
appear
>Friday.
>The plan has its doubters.
>"Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not

>only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the
>events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern
California
>journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad
picture of
>what American journalism could become."
>It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA

>professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and
>graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated
reporting,
>he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the
labor
>savings are worth.
>This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India.
>The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology
capital
>of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news
releases.
>Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism -
work
>that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they

>cover.
>Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets
about
>45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until
now,
>his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern.
>Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of
>craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian
reporters,
>one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California
at
>Berkeley.
>He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases
and
>event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps
>eventually to investigative reports.
>Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an
Indian
>journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces
the
>expected 15 weekly articles.
>Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't
pose
>problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local

>government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local
business
>who they can hire and where those employees should live."
>___
>Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India,
contributed
>to this report.
>___
>On the Net:
>The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com
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------=_Part_197288_11938421.1179010216245-- From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Sat May 12 19:38:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF632A33E3 for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 19:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10E5400481F for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30250-09 for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1D8400482E for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00:48 -0400 Message-ID: <20070512200048.q45d3t5tow88okww@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00:48 -0400 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 23:38:02 -0000 I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 billion bid to buy the Wall Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid for the Bancroft family; fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only imagine what would become of the Journal should it be purchased. As some of our alumni can attest (who now work for Murdoch), his concern is with only the bottom line. And his brand of "journalism" is another issue. On another note, I was moved to read Brant Houston's column/obit in the latest issue of IRE Journal about the Times Herald-Record editor who died in January. He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, one with integrity whose allegiance is to readers not shareholders. Shawn Murphy Associate Professor of Journalism Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > The topic of journalistic integrity has always been a priority at my > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge topic last week when > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow Jones who owns us. Thank > God the Bancroft family knows what that term means. > > -----Original Message----- > From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a journalist. He's concerned > with > the bottom line, not the public service that defines the career. > --Shawn Murphy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > -----Original Message----- > From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> To: >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 >> >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what > American >> journalism could become." >> >> Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups >> propose outsourcing journalists. >> >> >> -- Shawn Murphy >> >> >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist > based >> in India to report on the city government and political scene of > Pasadena, >> California, USA." >> A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than > the >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as > >> technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes > the >> next frontier: local journalism. >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in >> India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. >> But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City > Council >> meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes >> business sense because of India's lower labor costs. >> "I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of >> journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major > problem >> for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether > >> you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a > phone >> call or e-mail away from the interview." >> The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to > appear >> Friday. >> The plan has its doubters. >> "Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not > >> only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the >> events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern > California >> journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad > picture of >> what American journalism could become." >> It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA > >> professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and >> graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated > reporting, >> he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the > labor >> savings are worth. >> This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. >> The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology > capital >> of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news > releases. >> Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - > work >> that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they > >> cover. >> Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets > about >> 45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until > now, >> his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. >> Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of >> craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian > reporters, >> one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California > at >> Berkeley. >> He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases > and >> event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps >> eventually to investigative reports. >> Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an > Indian >> journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces > the >> expected 15 weekly articles. >> Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't > pose >> problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local > >> government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local > business >> who they can hire and where those employees should live." >> ___ >> Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, > contributed >> to this report. >> ___ >> On the Net: >> The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com >> The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Journalism-alumni mailing list >> Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _________________________________________________________________ > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail-award-winning > Windows > Live Hotmail. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migr > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > From luntj@juno.com Sun May 13 22:20:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from outbound-mail.lax.untd.com (outbound-mail.lax.untd.com [64.136.28.164]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id E9611A33E3 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail15.lax.untd.com (webmail15.lax.untd.com [10.131.27.155]) by smtpout08.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABDERVGHA59VNU2 ); Sun, 13 May 2007 19:43:19 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: FFdXzNKfkXu4Qfa7EfUzDl9wuNdcvfy59fGWJMNv0NfdygDEIw9TYQ== Received: (from luntj@juno.com) by webmail15.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id MMNWH2E2; Sun, 13 May 2007 19:42:40 PDT Received: from [65.78.18.104] by webmail15.lax.untd.com with HTTP: Mon, 14 May 2007 02:41:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.78.18.104] Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 02:41:45 GMT To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20070513.194240.701.1351522@webmail15.lax.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:3:3842660971 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.131.27.155|webmail15.lax.untd.com|webmail15.lax.untd.com|luntj@juno.com From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: [jou-alumni] Re: Journalism-alumni Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5 X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 02:20:49 -0000 I'm not surprised by the prospect of outsourcing journalism. I'm = surprised it hasn't already happened with copy editing. I used to = think that the task of news gathering was safe from outsourcing, but = I'm not surprised that the executives would pursue a cheaper option. I work WITH newsmen and newswomen, but I work FOR businessmen. And = the businessmen would willingly slit my throat if it could save a = buck or two. = Josh Lunt From murphysw@plattsburgh.edu Sun May 13 22:30:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu (relay.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.154.150]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2A7A33E3 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7507400095F for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.plattsburgh.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29333-03 for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.plattsburgh.edu (webmail.support.plattsburgh.edu [137.142.25.200]) by relay.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC15A400095E for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com (24-176-136-108.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com [24.176.136.108]) by webmail.plattsburgh.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sun, 13 May 2007 22:53:24 -0400 Message-ID: <20070513225324.u0ide47aoswgsgs4@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:53:24 -0400 To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] Re: Journalism-alumni Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5 References: <20070513.194240.701.1351522@webmail15.lax.untd.com> In-Reply-To: <20070513.194240.701.1351522@webmail15.lax.untd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.3) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 02:30:33 -0000 Josh, That's an important WITH and FOR distinction you make in your last paragraph. I must admit that I had not thought about the possibility of outsourcing copy editors; it chills my blood to think about that possibility since it can likely be more easily argued than outsourcing reporters. Those who you all work FOR could be considering this very move as I type these words. In that case, those who you work WITH should block that move in any way possible. This, of course, is one of the reasons for a unionized work force. Shawn Murphy Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > I'm not surprised by the prospect of outsourcing journalism. I'm > surprised it hasn't already happened with copy editing. I used to > think that the task of news gathering was safe from outsourcing, but > I'm not surprised that the executives would pursue a cheaper option. > > I work WITH newsmen and newswomen, but I work FOR businessmen. And > the businessmen would willingly slit my throat if it could save a > buck or two. > > Josh Lunt > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > From stomcho@th-record.com Mon May 14 15:39:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from oniinmr01.ottaway.com (oniinmr01.ottaway.com [204.27.188.22]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EA5A33E3 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onie2kmb02.win.dowjones.net ([172.20.2.102]) by oniinmr01.ottaway.com with ESMTP; 14 May 2007 16:02:25 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:02:24 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070512200048.q45d3t5tow88okww@webmail.plattsburgh.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Thread-Index: AceU8c98qDux2NlaTt6Nby/a7RuVugBcCeTg To: From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:39:26 -0000 Mike Levine, our former executive editor, was a good man and an excellent journalist. Out of respect, they still haven't filled his position. You and he would have gotten along famously. I just read this on Reuters: Rupert Murdoch plans to offer Dow Jones & Co.'s controlling Bancroft family a seat on the board of his News Corp. if News Corp's planned purchase of the publisher of The Wall Street Journal goes through, the newspaper said Monday on its Web site. Murdoch also plans to establish an "autonomous editorial board" if the transaction is approved, the newspaper said. This man needs to be stopped. If this happens, he'll own the Press Republican and my paper because they're both part of Ottaway. We are working in very scary times. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:01 PM To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 billion bid to buy the Wall Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid for the Bancroft family; fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only imagine what would=20 become of the Journal should it be purchased. As some of our alumni can attest (who now work for Murdoch), his concern is with only the bottom line. And his brand of "journalism" is another issue. On another note, I was moved to read Brant Houston's column/obit in the latest issue of IRE Journal about the Times Herald-Record editor who died in January. He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, one with integrity whose allegiance is to readers not shareholders. Shawn Murphy Associate Professor of Journalism Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > The topic of journalistic integrity has always been a priority at my > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge topic last week when > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow Jones who owns us. Thank > God the Bancroft family knows what that term means. > > -----Original Message----- > From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a journalist. He's concerned > with > the bottom line, not the public service that defines the career. > --Shawn Murphy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real journalist and has no idea what > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > -----Original Message----- > From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from Plattsburgh > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> To: >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 >> >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad picture of what > American >> journalism could become." >> >> Be sure to fight this at your news organization should the higher-ups >> propose outsourcing journalists. >> >> >> -- Shawn Murphy >> >> >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu May 10, 5:51 PM ET >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a newspaper journalist > based >> in India to report on the city government and political scene of > Pasadena, >> California, USA." >> A reporter half a world away covering local street-light contracts and >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten closer to Pasadena than > the >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, then hit services such as > >> technical support, airline reservations and tax preparation. Now comes > the >> next frontier: local journalism. >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the two-year-old Web site >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange to have journalists in >> India cover news in this wealthy city just outside Los Angeles. >> But he said it can be done from afar now that weekly Pasadena City > Council >> meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he said the idea makes >> business sense because of India's lower labor costs. >> "I think it could be a significant way to increase the quality of >> journalism on the local level without the expense that is a major > problem >> for local publications," said the 51-year-old Pasadena native. "Whether > >> you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, you're still just a > phone >> call or e-mail away from the interview." >> The first articles, some of which will carry bylines, are slated to > appear >> Friday. >> The plan has its doubters. >> "Nobody in their right mind would trust the reporting of people who not > >> only don't know the institutions but aren't even there to witness the >> events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a University of Southern > California >> journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This is a truly sad > picture of >> what American journalism could become." >> It is a shaky business proposition as well, said Uday Karmarkar, a UCLA > >> professor of technology and strategy who outsources copy editing and >> graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal is sophisticated > reporting, >> he said, Macpherson could end up spending more time editing than the > labor >> savings are worth. >> This is not the first time media jobs have been shipped to India. >> The British news agency Reuters runs an operation in the technology > capital >> of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories based on news > releases. >> Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource community journalism - > work >> that by definition has been done by reporters who walk the streets they > >> cover. >> Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out of his house, gets > about >> 45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet profitable. Up until > now, >> his main help has consisted of his wife and an intern. >> Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on the Indian edition of >> craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had hired two Indian > reporters, >> one a graduate of the journalism school at the University of California > at >> Berkeley. >> He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's content from news releases > and >> event listings to analyses of issues before the council, and perhaps >> eventually to investigative reports. >> Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not bad wages for an > Indian >> journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, especially if each one produces > the >> expected 15 weekly articles. >> Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said coverage from afar shouldn't > pose >> problems if the articles are well-edited. In any case, she said, "Local > >> government is certainly not in the practice of dictating to local > business >> who they can hire and where those employees should live." >> ___ >> Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New Delhi, India, > contributed >> to this report. >> ___ >> On the Net: >> The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com >> The ad: http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Journalism-alumni mailing list >> Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _________________________________________________________________ > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail-award-winning > Windows > Live Hotmail. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_m= igr > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _______________________________________________ Journalism-alumni mailing list Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni From metlpnkska@yahoo.com Mon May 14 18:30:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.186]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D38BA33E3 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17727 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2007 22:53:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nAnzy4ZIAAjlCSVENgld2XvPsYLYiXMZyrYkI6OzLBbTQZn6sGftnuwhphyOFCKNvM2omTobtL4vAl1BXG/qBaYEKKMhnsH33exq5Kg7kx9NF0JbIHGjjAhWfdzIpRLXXYeIpqc4qNG4NW22n7X6XivMIs00l3B1y6Z2B6fzkVs=; X-YMail-OSG: DNoQdp0VM1nu3WYJCHz_oURJtDPcabGUrBxaUBP4y8UETnjyBDBoDFQ2eyke2PAnAf6gWpQCxfcyizoBakIHX3TbO9oFA.oTqAd6QlyAp5cHCwpL.Jc- Received: from [66.108.62.84] by web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:32 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <923951.17487.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:30:36 -0000 Honestly, I don't know how scary these times really are. I know it seems like it on the face of it, but I see it more as we're in a transition phase between old and new media. Those of you who know me probably know that I haven't made much use of my degree, mainly because I had issues with where media was heading even back in 2000 (there's also the matter of having to afford living in Manhattan, incidentally). I steadfastly believe that newspapers and network news will not be the dominant medium of delivering news within 20 years...maybe even less than that. Think about it on a historical timeline. People my age and younger are a generation that primarily gets their news directly through blogs, and indirectly through the Daily Show, the Colbert Report and even the Onion. Of course, blogs aren't news in the traditional sense...everything is filtered through a layer of opinion. However, if someone cares to explain to me how that differs from most major news sources now, I'd be much obliged. It's true that there are still good sources of journalism out there, but the playing field makes it that much harder for it to survive in the traditional ways. I think what you'll find is that eventually there will be an independent online media source that does go back to traditional newsgathering...journalism of no clique or party. The overhead is mainly bandwidth and talent - you're not buying entire forests' worth of paper to print on, and all the other costs that go along with it. Of course, they would still need advertisers, but they'd be less beholden to them when they aren't owned by corporations that have likely conflicts of interest with the news they are supposed to be impartially finding and presenting. On top of that, the proliferation of laptops, Blackberries, PDAs, Palm Pilots, etc. means that the old argument of having something you can hold in your hands and read doesn't apply so much anymore. You can not only read on the train or in a Starbucks, you also don't have to deal with folding it, flipping to page 17A when the first half is on page one (I really, really, really HATE that). Let that creep Murdoch buy all the newspapers in the world. Whatever. I don't think it's going to be very long before it's the equivalent of owning stock in a steamboat company. - Sean Swift, Still overly wordy, all these years later. :) --- journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: > Mike Levine, our former executive editor, was a good > man and an > excellent journalist. Out of respect, they still > haven't filled his > position. You and he would have gotten along > famously. > > I just read this on Reuters: Rupert Murdoch plans to > offer Dow Jones & > Co.'s controlling Bancroft family a seat on the > board of his News Corp. > if News Corp's planned purchase of the publisher of > The Wall Street > Journal goes through, the newspaper said Monday on > its Web site. Murdoch > also plans to establish an "autonomous editorial > board" if the > transaction is approved, the newspaper said. > > This man needs to be stopped. If this happens, he'll > own the Press > Republican and my paper because they're both part of > Ottaway. > We are working in very scary times. > > Sandy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > On Behalf Of > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:01 PM > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 > billion bid to buy the > Wall > Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid for > the Bancroft family; > fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only > imagine what would > become of the > Journal should it be purchased. As some of our > alumni can attest (who > now work > for Murdoch), his concern is with only the bottom > line. And his brand of > "journalism" is another issue. > > On another note, I was moved to read Brant Houston's > column/obit in the > latest > issue of IRE Journal about the Times Herald-Record > editor who died in > January. > He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, one > with integrity > whose > allegiance is to readers not shareholders. > > Shawn Murphy > Associate Professor of Journalism > > Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > > > The topic of journalistic integrity has always > been a priority at my > > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge > topic last week when > > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow > Jones who owns us. > Thank > > God the Bancroft family knows what that term > means. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > On Behalf Of > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a > journalist. He's > concerned > > with > > the bottom line, not the public service that > defines the career. > > --Shawn Murphy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real > journalist and has no idea > what > > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > On Behalf Of > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from > Plattsburgh > > > > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >> Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >> To: > >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > >> > >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad > picture of what > > American > >> journalism could become." > >> > >> Be sure to fight this at your news organization > should the higher-ups > >> propose outsourcing journalists. > >> > >> > >> -- Shawn Murphy > >> > >> > >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting > >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu > May 10, 5:51 PM ET > >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a > newspaper journalist > > based > >> in India to report on the city government and > political scene of > > Pasadena, > >> California, USA." > >> A reporter half a world away covering local > street-light contracts > and > >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten > closer to Pasadena > than > > the > >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? > >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, > then hit services such > as > > > >> technical support, airline reservations and tax > preparation. Now > comes > > the > >> next frontier: local journalism. > >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the > two-year-old Web site > >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange > to have journalists > in > >> India cover news in this wealthy city just > outside Los Angeles. > >> But he said it can be done from afar now that > weekly Pasadena City > > Council > >> meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he > said the idea makes > >> business sense because of India's lower labor > costs. > >> "I think it could be a significant way to > increase the quality of > >> journalism on the local level without the expense > that is a major > > problem > >> for local publications," said the 51-year-old > Pasadena native. > "Whether > > > >> you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, > you're still just a > > phone > >> call or e-mail away from the interview." > >> The first articles, some of which will carry > bylines, are slated to > > appear > >> Friday. > >> The plan has its doubters. > >> "Nobody in their right mind would trust the > reporting of people who > not > > > >> only don't know the institutions but aren't even > there to witness the > >> events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a > University of Southern > > California > >> journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This > is a truly sad > > picture of > >> what American journalism could become." > >> It is a shaky business proposition as well, said > Uday Karmarkar, a > UCLA > > > >> professor of technology and strategy who > outsources copy editing and > >> graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal > is sophisticated > > reporting, > >> he said, Macpherson could end up spending more > time editing than the > > labor > >> savings are worth. > >> This is not the first time media jobs have been > shipped to India. > >> The British news agency Reuters runs an operation > in the technology > > capital > >> of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories > based on news > > releases. > >> Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource > community journalism > - > > work > >> that by definition has been done by reporters who > walk the streets > they > > > >> cover. > >> Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out > of his house, gets > > about > >> 45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet > profitable. Up until > > now, > >> his main help has consisted of his wife and an > intern. > >> Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on > the Indian edition of > >> craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had > hired two Indian > > reporters, > >> one a graduate of the journalism school at the > University of > California > > at > >> Berkeley. > >> He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's > content from news releases > > and > >> event listings to analyses of issues before the > council, and perhaps > >> eventually to investigative reports. > >> Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not > bad wages for an > > Indian > >> journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, > especially if each one > produces > > the > >> expected 15 weekly articles. > >> Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said > coverage from afar > shouldn't > > pose > >> problems if the articles are well-edited. In any > case, she said, > "Local > > > >> government is certainly not in the practice of > dictating to local > > business > >> who they can hire and where those employees > should live." > >> ___ > >> Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New > Delhi, India, > > contributed > >> to this report. > >> ___ > >> On the Net: > >> The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com > >> The ad: > http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Journalism-alumni mailing list > >> Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >> > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web > mail-award-winning > > Windows > > Live Hotmail. > > > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migr > > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _______________________________________________ > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _______________________________________________ > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > _______________________________________________ > Journalism-alumni mailing list > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > ____________________________________________________________________________________Looking for a deal? 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FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From abmccall@hotmail.com Mon May 14 18:46:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.161]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20B6A33E3 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 18:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.11.96]) by bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Mon, 14 May 2007 16:09:56 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:09:56 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.11.123 by by123fd.bay123.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2007 23:09:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [76.179.150.11] X-Originating-Email: [abmccall@hotmail.com] X-Sender: abmccall@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <923951.17487.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:09:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2007 23:09:56.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD12FE60:01C7967C] From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:46:58 -0000 Very good and interesting points Sean Swift. I too left the field of Journalism after finding I could make more cash waiting tables. Now I work for a publisher , doing absolutely nothing that has anything to do with my degree. It's merely administrative work and although I catch all the editorial department's mistakes, they won't hire me in that department and hire less skilled people because it is cheaper, due to the amount of years and annual raises I have aquired with the company. I live in Maine, not comparable to Manhatten, but I bet when you look at the wages, it is pretty close, not to mention the fact that we have the 2nd highest tax rate in the U.S. Only D.C. is higher. What about the fact that NBC nightly news has picked up stories from the "Daily Show?" What does that say about even our best journalists? Your right about the future of news sources though. A journalism degree will soon, if it isn't already, be as useful as a degree in Latin. Alex McCall >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) > >Honestly, I don't know how scary these times really >are. I know it seems like it on the face of it, but I >see it more as we're in a transition phase between old >and new media. Those of you who know me probably know >that I haven't made much use of my degree, mainly >because I had issues with where media was heading even >back in 2000 (there's also the matter of having to >afford living in Manhattan, incidentally). > >I steadfastly believe that newspapers and network news >will not be the dominant medium of delivering news >within 20 years...maybe even less than that. Think >about it on a historical timeline. People my age and >younger are a generation that primarily gets their >news directly through blogs, and indirectly through >the Daily Show, the Colbert Report and even the Onion. >Of course, blogs aren't news in the traditional >sense...everything is filtered through a layer of >opinion. However, if someone cares to explain to me >how that differs from most major news sources now, I'd >be much obliged. It's true that there are still good >sources of journalism out there, but the playing field >makes it that much harder for it to survive in the >traditional ways. > >I think what you'll find is that eventually there will >be an independent online media source that does go >back to traditional newsgathering...journalism of no >clique or party. The overhead is mainly bandwidth and >talent - you're not buying entire forests' worth of >paper to print on, and all the other costs that go >along with it. Of course, they would still need >advertisers, but they'd be less beholden to them when >they aren't owned by corporations that have likely >conflicts of interest with the news they are supposed >to be impartially finding and presenting. > >On top of that, the proliferation of laptops, >Blackberries, PDAs, Palm Pilots, etc. means that the >old argument of having something you can hold in your >hands and read doesn't apply so much anymore. You can >not only read on the train or in a Starbucks, you also >don't have to deal with folding it, flipping to page >17A when the first half is on page one (I really, >really, really HATE that). > >Let that creep Murdoch buy all the newspapers in the >world. Whatever. I don't think it's going to be very >long before it's the equivalent of owning stock in a >steamboat company. > >- Sean Swift, >Still overly wordy, all these years later. :) > > > >--- journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: > > > Mike Levine, our former executive editor, was a good > > man and an > > excellent journalist. Out of respect, they still > > haven't filled his > > position. You and he would have gotten along > > famously. > > > > I just read this on Reuters: Rupert Murdoch plans to > > offer Dow Jones & > > Co.'s controlling Bancroft family a seat on the > > board of his News Corp. > > if News Corp's planned purchase of the publisher of > > The Wall Street > > Journal goes through, the newspaper said Monday on > > its Web site. Murdoch > > also plans to establish an "autonomous editorial > > board" if the > > transaction is approved, the newspaper said. > > > > This man needs to be stopped. If this happens, he'll > > own the Press > > Republican and my paper because they're both part of > > Ottaway. > > We are working in very scary times. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > On Behalf Of > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:01 PM > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 > > billion bid to buy the > > Wall > > Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid for > > the Bancroft family; > > fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only > > imagine what would > > become of the > > Journal should it be purchased. As some of our > > alumni can attest (who > > now work > > for Murdoch), his concern is with only the bottom > > line. And his brand of > > "journalism" is another issue. > > > > On another note, I was moved to read Brant Houston's > > column/obit in the > > latest > > issue of IRE Journal about the Times Herald-Record > > editor who died in > > January. > > He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, one > > with integrity > > whose > > allegiance is to readers not shareholders. > > > > Shawn Murphy > > Associate Professor of Journalism > > > > Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > > > > > The topic of journalistic integrity has always > > been a priority at my > > > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge > > topic last week when > > > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow > > Jones who owns us. > > Thank > > > God the Bancroft family knows what that term > > means. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > On Behalf Of > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a > > journalist. He's > > concerned > > > with > > > the bottom line, not the public service that > > defines the career. > > > --Shawn Murphy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real > > journalist and has no idea > > what > > > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > On Behalf Of > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from > > Plattsburgh > > > > > > > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >> Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >> To: > > >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > > >> > > >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad > > picture of what > > > American > > >> journalism could become." > > >> > > >> Be sure to fight this at your news organization > > should the higher-ups > > >> propose outsourcing journalists. > > >> > > >> > > >> -- Shawn Murphy > > >> > > >> > > >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting > > >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu > > May 10, 5:51 PM ET > > >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a > > newspaper journalist > > > based > > >> in India to report on the city government and > > political scene of > > > Pasadena, > > >> California, USA." > > >> A reporter half a world away covering local > > street-light contracts > > and > > >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten > > closer to Pasadena > > than > > > the > > >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? > > >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, > > then hit services such > > as > > > > > >> technical support, airline reservations and tax > > preparation. Now > > comes > > > the > > >> next frontier: local journalism. > > >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the > > two-year-old Web site > > >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange > > to have journalists > > in > > >> India cover news in this wealthy city just > > outside Los Angeles. > > >> But he said it can be done from afar now that > > weekly Pasadena City > > > Council > > >> meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he > > said the idea makes > > >> business sense because of India's lower labor > > costs. > > >> "I think it could be a significant way to > > increase the quality of > > >> journalism on the local level without the expense > > that is a major > > > problem > > >> for local publications," said the 51-year-old > > Pasadena native. > > "Whether > > > > > >> you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, > > you're still just a > > > phone > > >> call or e-mail away from the interview." > > >> The first articles, some of which will carry > > bylines, are slated to > > > appear > > >> Friday. > > >> The plan has its doubters. > > >> "Nobody in their right mind would trust the > > reporting of people who > > not > > > > > >> only don't know the institutions but aren't even > > there to witness the > > >> events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a > > University of Southern > > > California > > >> journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This > > is a truly sad > > > picture of > > >> what American journalism could become." > > >> It is a shaky business proposition as well, said > > Uday Karmarkar, a > > UCLA > > > > > >> professor of technology and strategy who > > outsources copy editing and > > >> graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal > > is sophisticated > > > reporting, > > >> he said, Macpherson could end up spending more > > time editing than the > > > labor > > >> savings are worth. > > >> This is not the first time media jobs have been > > shipped to India. > > >> The British news agency Reuters runs an operation > > in the technology > > > capital > > >> of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories > > based on news > > > releases. > > >> Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource > > community journalism > > - > > > work > > >> that by definition has been done by reporters who > > walk the streets > > they > > > > > >> cover. > > >> Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out > > of his house, gets > > > about > > >> 45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet > > profitable. Up until > > > now, > > >> his main help has consisted of his wife and an > > intern. > > >> Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on > > the Indian edition of > > >> craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had > > hired two Indian > > > reporters, > > >> one a graduate of the journalism school at the > > University of > > California > > > at > > >> Berkeley. > > >> He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's > > content from news releases > > > and > > >> event listings to analyses of issues before the > > council, and perhaps > > >> eventually to investigative reports. > > >> Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not > > bad wages for an > > > Indian > > >> journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, > > especially if each one > > produces > > > the > > >> expected 15 weekly articles. > > >> Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said > > coverage from afar > > shouldn't > > > pose > > >> problems if the articles are well-edited. In any > > case, she said, > > "Local > > > > > >> government is certainly not in the practice of > > dictating to local > > > business > > >> who they can hire and where those employees > > should live." > > >> ___ > > >> Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New > > Delhi, India, > > > contributed > > >> to this report. > > >> ___ > > >> On the Net: > > >> The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com > > >> The ad: > > http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Journalism-alumni mailing list > > >> Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >> > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web > > mail-award-winning > > > Windows > > > Live Hotmail. > > > > > >http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migr > > > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _______________________________________________ > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________Looking >for a deal? 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FareChase. >http://farechase.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Journalism-alumni mailing list >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine’s 2007 editors’ choice for best Web mail—award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 From metlpnkska@yahoo.com Mon May 14 19:02:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.185]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 01917A33E3 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 19:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24625 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2007 23:25:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=oTWHrDqIPs0H3/6Gt3qdNioQb4D1rxVacyh00uJGVXsQkc/lSD5pjOLs7vHqtPcm0s/07K+6yRkKJlwZ6YedFep62tBcTtdwzmqDvnKw60DJqgbu5JoB4GuBIvzGq6pDU5NdFqNgdyXNG6LVn9CjUlQH/6HmNwWl50wCupiJ+yA=; X-YMail-OSG: YT6ZR_gVM1k06XPEpXttuI6thcqB1XDhI7UPeR0gRlqSMiEnW6CL.f5XTsReGma_JRA.i83Rzt03o5rfQjoU7EfdFPgZnYhrQoD9H0Hles9h89vwlAobOgyFG2Bq6zCBch6UAdm6MVrwrw-- Received: from [66.108.62.84] by web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:25:12 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <688305.23953.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:02:13 -0000 Alex, I don't think it's the degree that will be worthless - I think it will be the physical properties that News Corp. and other leeches of their ilk own (or will own). However media evolves in the near future, I think it will be on the backs of bright, young, disenchanted kids coming out of J-school who think that they can change the world. I mean, they just might. - Sean --- journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: > Very good and interesting points Sean Swift. > > I too left the field of Journalism after finding I > could make more cash > waiting tables. Now I work for a publisher , doing > absolutely nothing that > has anything to do with my degree. It's merely > administrative work and > although I catch all the editorial department's > mistakes, they won't hire me > in that department and hire less skilled people > because it is cheaper, due > to the amount of years and annual raises I have > aquired with the company. > > I live in Maine, not comparable to Manhatten, but I > bet when you look at the > wages, it is pretty close, not to mention the fact > that we have the 2nd > highest tax rate in the U.S. Only D.C. is higher. > > What about the fact that NBC nightly news has picked > up stories from the > "Daily Show?" What does that say about even our best > journalists? Your right > about the future of news sources though. A > journalism degree will soon, if > it isn't already, be as useful as a degree in Latin. > > Alex McCall > > > >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Honestly, I don't know how scary these times really > >are. I know it seems like it on the face of it, but > I > >see it more as we're in a transition phase between > old > >and new media. Those of you who know me probably > know > >that I haven't made much use of my degree, mainly > >because I had issues with where media was heading > even > >back in 2000 (there's also the matter of having to > >afford living in Manhattan, incidentally). > > > >I steadfastly believe that newspapers and network > news > >will not be the dominant medium of delivering news > >within 20 years...maybe even less than that. Think > >about it on a historical timeline. People my age > and > >younger are a generation that primarily gets their > >news directly through blogs, and indirectly through > >the Daily Show, the Colbert Report and even the > Onion. > >Of course, blogs aren't news in the traditional > >sense...everything is filtered through a layer of > >opinion. However, if someone cares to explain to me > >how that differs from most major news sources now, > I'd > >be much obliged. It's true that there are still > good > >sources of journalism out there, but the playing > field > >makes it that much harder for it to survive in the > >traditional ways. > > > >I think what you'll find is that eventually there > will > >be an independent online media source that does go > >back to traditional newsgathering...journalism of > no > >clique or party. The overhead is mainly bandwidth > and > >talent - you're not buying entire forests' worth of > >paper to print on, and all the other costs that go > >along with it. Of course, they would still need > >advertisers, but they'd be less beholden to them > when > >they aren't owned by corporations that have likely > >conflicts of interest with the news they are > supposed > >to be impartially finding and presenting. > > > >On top of that, the proliferation of laptops, > >Blackberries, PDAs, Palm Pilots, etc. means that > the > >old argument of having something you can hold in > your > >hands and read doesn't apply so much anymore. You > can > >not only read on the train or in a Starbucks, you > also > >don't have to deal with folding it, flipping to > page > >17A when the first half is on page one (I really, > >really, really HATE that). > > > >Let that creep Murdoch buy all the newspapers in > the > >world. Whatever. I don't think it's going to be > very > >long before it's the equivalent of owning stock in > a > >steamboat company. > > > >- Sean Swift, > >Still overly wordy, all these years later. :) > > > > > > > >--- journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: > > > > > Mike Levine, our former executive editor, was a > good > > > man and an > > > excellent journalist. Out of respect, they still > > > haven't filled his > > > position. You and he would have gotten along > > > famously. > > > > > > I just read this on Reuters: Rupert Murdoch > plans to > > > offer Dow Jones & > > > Co.'s controlling Bancroft family a seat on the > > > board of his News Corp. > > > if News Corp's planned purchase of the publisher > of > > > The Wall Street > > > Journal goes through, the newspaper said Monday > on > > > its Web site. Murdoch > > > also plans to establish an "autonomous editorial > > > board" if the > > > transaction is approved, the newspaper said. > > > > > > This man needs to be stopped. If this happens, > he'll > > > own the Press > > > Republican and my paper because they're both > part of > > > Ottaway. > > > We are working in very scary times. > > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:01 PM > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing > journalists > > > > > > I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 > > > billion bid to buy the > > > Wall > > > Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid > for > > > the Bancroft family; > > > fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only > > > imagine what would > > > become of the > > > Journal should it be purchased. As some of our > > > alumni can attest (who > > > now work > > > for Murdoch), his concern is with only the > bottom > > > line. And his brand of > > > "journalism" is another issue. > > > > > > On another note, I was moved to read Brant > Houston's > > > column/obit in the > > > latest > > > issue of IRE Journal about the Times > Herald-Record > > > editor who died in > > > January. > > > He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, > one > > > with integrity > > > whose > > > allegiance is to readers not shareholders. > > > > > > Shawn Murphy > > > Associate Professor of Journalism > > > > > > Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > > > > > > > The topic of journalistic integrity has always > > > been a priority at my > > > > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge > > > topic last week when > > > > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow > > > Jones who owns us. > > > Thank > > > > God the Bancroft family knows what that term > > > means. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing > journalists > > > > > > > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a > > > journalist. He's > > > concerned > > > > with > > > > the bottom line, not the public service that > > > defines the career. > > > > --Shawn Murphy > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing > journalists > > > > > > > > > > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real > > > journalist and has no idea > > > what > > > > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing > journalists > > > > > > > > shows the true value of a journalism degree > from > > > Plattsburgh > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> Reply-To: > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> To: > > > >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > > > >> > > > >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly > sad > > > picture of what > > > > American > > > >> journalism could become." > > > >> > > > >> Be sure to fight this at your news > organization > > > should the higher-ups > > > >> propose outsourcing journalists. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- Shawn Murphy > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting > > > >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press > WriterThu > > > May 10, 5:51 PM ET > > > >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We > seek a > > > newspaper journalist > > > > based > > > >> in India to report on the city government and > > > political scene of > > > > Pasadena, > > > >> California, USA." > > > >> A reporter half a world away covering local > > > street-light contracts > > > and > > > >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never > gotten > > > closer to Pasadena > > > than > > > > the > > > >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? > > > >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, > > > then hit services such > > > as > > > > > > > >> technical support, airline reservations and > tax > > > preparation. Now > > > comes > > > > the > > > >> next frontier: local journalism. > > > >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the > > > two-year-old Web site > > > >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds > strange > > > to have journalists > > > in > > > >> India cover news in this wealthy city just > > > outside Los Angeles. > > > >> But he said it can be done from afar now that > > > weekly Pasadena City > > > > Council > > > >> meetings can be watched over the Internet. > And he > > > said the idea makes > > > >> business sense because of India's lower labor > > > costs. > > > >> "I think it could be a significant way to > > > increase the quality of > > > >> journalism on the local level without the > expense > > > that is a major > > > > problem > > > >> for local publications," said the 51-year-old > > > Pasadena native. > > > "Whether > > > > > > > >> you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in > Mumbai, > > > you're still just a > > > > phone > > > >> call or e-mail away from the interview." > > > >> The first articles, some of which will carry > > > bylines, are slated to > > > > appear > > > >> Friday. > > > >> The plan has its doubters. > > > >> "Nobody in their right mind would trust the > > > reporting of people who > > > not > > > > > > > >> only don't know the institutions but aren't > even > > > there to witness the > > > >> events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a > > > University of Southern > > > > California > > > >> journalism professor and Pasadena resident. > "This > > > is a truly sad > > > > picture of > > > >> what American journalism could become." > > > >> It is a shaky business proposition as well, > said > > > Uday Karmarkar, a > > > UCLA > > > > > > > >> professor of technology and strategy who > > > outsources copy editing and > > > >> graphics work to Indian businesses. If the > goal > > > is sophisticated > > > > reporting, > > > >> he said, Macpherson could end up spending > more > > > time editing than the > > > > labor > > > >> savings are worth. > > > >> This is not the first time media jobs have > been > > > shipped to India. > > > >> The British news agency Reuters runs an > operation > > > in the technology > > > > capital > > > >> of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street > stories > > > based on news > > > > releases. > > > >> Macpherson appears to be the first to > outsource > > > community journalism > > > - > > > > work > > > >> that by definition has been done by reporters > who > > > walk the streets > > > they > > > > > > > >> cover. > > > >> Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs > out > > > of his house, gets > > > > about > > > >> 45,000 unique readers per month but is not > yet > > > profitable. Up until > > > > now, > > > >> his main help has consisted of his wife and > an > > > intern. > > > >> Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday > on > > > the Indian edition of > > > >> craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had > > > hired two Indian > > > > reporters, > > > >> one a graduate of the journalism school at > the > > > University of > > > California > > > > at > > > >> Berkeley. > > > >> He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's > > > content from news releases > > > > and > > > >> event listings to analyses of issues before > the > > > council, and perhaps > > > >> eventually to investigative reports. > > > >> Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. > Not > > > bad wages for an > > > > Indian > > > >> journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, > > > especially if each one > > > produces > > > > the > > > >> expected 15 weekly articles. > > > >> Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said > > > coverage from afar > > > shouldn't > > > > pose > > > >> problems if the articles are well-edited. In > any > > > case, she said, > > > "Local > > > > > > > >> government is certainly not in the practice > of > > > dictating to local > > > > business > > > >> who they can hire and where those employees > > > should live." > > > >> ___ > > > >> Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in > New > > > Delhi, India, > > > > contributed > > > >> to this report. > > > >> ___ > > > >> On the Net: > > > >> The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com > > > >> The ad: > > > > http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > > > > > > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > >> Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best > Web > > > mail-award-winning > > > > Windows > > > > Live Hotmail. > > > > > > > > >http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migr > > > > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________Looking > > >for a deal? 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TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From libby.h.schirmer@lexisnexis.com Mon May 14 19:03:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from mx03.lexisnexis.com (mx03.lexisnexis.com [198.185.18.46]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4021AA33E3 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 19:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate2.lexis-nexis.com ([138.12.44.45]) by mx03.lexisnexis.com with ESMTP; 14 May 2007 19:26:34 -0400 Received: from lngalbexcp000.legal.regn.net (LNGALBEXCP000.BENDER.COM [198.176.99.51])l4ENQYLe024828 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 19:26:34 -0400 Received: from LNGALBEXCP01VA.legal.regn.net ([198.176.99.44]) by lngalbexcp000.legal.regn.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 14 May 2007 19:26:34 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:26:33 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists thread-index: AceWfRQpdc3q1Qd2Shm7qWlZcgURFAAANggw To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2007 23:26:34.0309 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F8E5750:01C7967F] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 138.12.44.45 From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:03:36 -0000 Well, you guys have got the true cynicism of a journalist down pat...why waste it????? :-)... Newspapers will never become obsolete the same way books will never become obsolete, but for very different reasons...you're not going to find human interest stories of your neighbors on the national news, nor will you find the ever-popular crime blotter...this is where local newspapers, dailies and sometimes weekly newspapers will clean up -- and what makes this 'businessman's MacPherson's' approach so distressing.=20 at least now, local newspapers are catching up with the times and issuing a majority of their stories, if not the entire paper, on the web...they still fulfill their purpose...it's like a pop tart like Brittney Spears, well maybe not her, changing their image and style to match those changing tastes of her maturing audience...it's just the newspaper readers are becoming more technologically savvy... FYI: I too sold out for the cash that a large publishing company could offer, along with benefits that my old company didn't or wouldn't afford its writers. Perhaps when I become independently wealthy, I'll go back to the light side...til then... Libby Schirmer -----Original Message----- From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu [mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:10 PM To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Very good and interesting points Sean Swift. I too left the field of Journalism after finding I could make more cash=20 waiting tables. Now I work for a publisher , doing absolutely nothing that=20 has anything to do with my degree. It's merely administrative work and=20 although I catch all the editorial department's mistakes, they won't hire me=20 in that department and hire less skilled people because it is cheaper, due=20 to the amount of years and annual raises I have aquired with the company. I live in Maine, not comparable to Manhatten, but I bet when you look at the=20 wages, it is pretty close, not to mention the fact that we have the 2nd=20 highest tax rate in the U.S. Only D.C. is higher. What about the fact that NBC nightly news has picked up stories from the "Daily Show?" What does that say about even our best journalists? Your right=20 about the future of news sources though. A journalism degree will soon, if=20 it isn't already, be as useful as a degree in Latin. Alex McCall >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) > >Honestly, I don't know how scary these times really >are. I know it seems like it on the face of it, but I >see it more as we're in a transition phase between old >and new media. Those of you who know me probably know >that I haven't made much use of my degree, mainly >because I had issues with where media was heading even >back in 2000 (there's also the matter of having to >afford living in Manhattan, incidentally). > >I steadfastly believe that newspapers and network news >will not be the dominant medium of delivering news >within 20 years...maybe even less than that. Think >about it on a historical timeline. People my age and >younger are a generation that primarily gets their >news directly through blogs, and indirectly through >the Daily Show, the Colbert Report and even the Onion. >Of course, blogs aren't news in the traditional >sense...everything is filtered through a layer of >opinion. However, if someone cares to explain to me >how that differs from most major news sources now, I'd >be much obliged. It's true that there are still good >sources of journalism out there, but the playing field >makes it that much harder for it to survive in the >traditional ways. > >I think what you'll find is that eventually there will >be an independent online media source that does go >back to traditional newsgathering...journalism of no >clique or party. The overhead is mainly bandwidth and >talent - you're not buying entire forests' worth of >paper to print on, and all the other costs that go >along with it. Of course, they would still need >advertisers, but they'd be less beholden to them when >they aren't owned by corporations that have likely >conflicts of interest with the news they are supposed >to be impartially finding and presenting. > >On top of that, the proliferation of laptops, >Blackberries, PDAs, Palm Pilots, etc. means that the >old argument of having something you can hold in your >hands and read doesn't apply so much anymore. You can >not only read on the train or in a Starbucks, you also >don't have to deal with folding it, flipping to page >17A when the first half is on page one (I really, >really, really HATE that). > >Let that creep Murdoch buy all the newspapers in the >world. Whatever. I don't think it's going to be very >long before it's the equivalent of owning stock in a >steamboat company. > >- Sean Swift, >Still overly wordy, all these years later. :) > > > >--- journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: > > > Mike Levine, our former executive editor, was a good > > man and an > > excellent journalist. Out of respect, they still > > haven't filled his > > position. You and he would have gotten along > > famously. > > > > I just read this on Reuters: Rupert Murdoch plans to > > offer Dow Jones & > > Co.'s controlling Bancroft family a seat on the > > board of his News Corp. > > if News Corp's planned purchase of the publisher of > > The Wall Street > > Journal goes through, the newspaper said Monday on > > its Web site. Murdoch > > also plans to establish an "autonomous editorial > > board" if the > > transaction is approved, the newspaper said. > > > > This man needs to be stopped. If this happens, he'll > > own the Press > > Republican and my paper because they're both part of > > Ottaway. > > We are working in very scary times. > > > > Sandy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > On Behalf Of > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:01 PM > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 > > billion bid to buy the > > Wall > > Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid for > > the Bancroft family; > > fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only > > imagine what would > > become of the > > Journal should it be purchased. As some of our > > alumni can attest (who > > now work > > for Murdoch), his concern is with only the bottom > > line. And his brand of > > "journalism" is another issue. > > > > On another note, I was moved to read Brant Houston's > > column/obit in the > > latest > > issue of IRE Journal about the Times Herald-Record > > editor who died in > > January. > > He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, one > > with integrity > > whose > > allegiance is to readers not shareholders. > > > > Shawn Murphy > > Associate Professor of Journalism > > > > Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > > > > > The topic of journalistic integrity has always > > been a priority at my > > > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge > > topic last week when > > > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow > > Jones who owns us. > > Thank > > > God the Bancroft family knows what that term > > means. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > On Behalf Of > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a > > journalist. He's > > concerned > > > with > > > the bottom line, not the public service that > > defines the career. > > > --Shawn Murphy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real > > journalist and has no idea > > what > > > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > On Behalf Of > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from > > Plattsburgh > > > > > > > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >> Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >> To: > > >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > > >> > > >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad > > picture of what > > > American > > >> journalism could become." > > >> > > >> Be sure to fight this at your news organization > > should the higher-ups > > >> propose outsourcing journalists. > > >> > > >> > > >> -- Shawn Murphy > > >> > > >> > > >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting > > >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu > > May 10, 5:51 PM ET > > >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a > > newspaper journalist > > > based > > >> in India to report on the city government and > > political scene of > > > Pasadena, > > >> California, USA." > > >> A reporter half a world away covering local > > street-light contracts > > and > > >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten > > closer to Pasadena > > than > > > the > > >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? > > >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, > > then hit services such > > as > > > > > >> technical support, airline reservations and tax > > preparation. Now > > comes > > > the > > >> next frontier: local journalism. > > >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the > > two-year-old Web site > > >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange > > to have journalists > > in > > >> India cover news in this wealthy city just > > outside Los Angeles. > > >> But he said it can be done from afar now that > > weekly Pasadena City > > > Council > > >> meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he > > said the idea makes > > >> business sense because of India's lower labor > > costs. > > >> "I think it could be a significant way to > > increase the quality of > > >> journalism on the local level without the expense > > that is a major > > > problem > > >> for local publications," said the 51-year-old > > Pasadena native. > > "Whether > > > > > >> you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, > > you're still just a > > > phone > > >> call or e-mail away from the interview." > > >> The first articles, some of which will carry > > bylines, are slated to > > > appear > > >> Friday. > > >> The plan has its doubters. > > >> "Nobody in their right mind would trust the > > reporting of people who > > not > > > > > >> only don't know the institutions but aren't even > > there to witness the > > >> events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a > > University of Southern > > > California > > >> journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This > > is a truly sad > > > picture of > > >> what American journalism could become." > > >> It is a shaky business proposition as well, said > > Uday Karmarkar, a > > UCLA > > > > > >> professor of technology and strategy who > > outsources copy editing and > > >> graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal > > is sophisticated > > > reporting, > > >> he said, Macpherson could end up spending more > > time editing than the > > > labor > > >> savings are worth. > > >> This is not the first time media jobs have been > > shipped to India. > > >> The British news agency Reuters runs an operation > > in the technology > > > capital > > >> of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories > > based on news > > > releases. > > >> Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource > > community journalism > > - > > > work > > >> that by definition has been done by reporters who > > walk the streets > > they > > > > > >> cover. > > >> Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out > > of his house, gets > > > about > > >> 45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet > > profitable. Up until > > > now, > > >> his main help has consisted of his wife and an > > intern. > > >> Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on > > the Indian edition of > > >> craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had > > hired two Indian > > > reporters, > > >> one a graduate of the journalism school at the > > University of > > California > > > at > > >> Berkeley. > > >> He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's > > content from news releases > > > and > > >> event listings to analyses of issues before the > > council, and perhaps > > >> eventually to investigative reports. > > >> Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not > > bad wages for an > > > Indian > > >> journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, > > especially if each one > > produces > > > the > > >> expected 15 weekly articles. > > >> Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said > > coverage from afar > > shouldn't > > > pose > > >> problems if the articles are well-edited. In any > > case, she said, > > "Local > > > > > >> government is certainly not in the practice of > > dictating to local > > > business > > >> who they can hire and where those employees > > should live." > > >> ___ > > >> Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New > > Delhi, India, > > > contributed > > >> to this report. > > >> ___ > > >> On the Net: > > >> The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com > > >> The ad: > > http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Journalism-alumni mailing list > > >> Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >> > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web > > mail-award-winning > > > Windows > > > Live Hotmail. > > > > > >http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=3Den-us&ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_= mig r > > > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > _______________________________________________ > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ _____________Looking=20 >for a deal? 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Don't get me wrong...I know some have done quite well in the field, my old friend Anne Marie Mooney for one, who now works for 60 minutes...anyone know how to reach her? I know what you mean, "newspapers will never be obsolete." I was told that in '93 and decided that was B.S. I was also told in '91 that there would be a T.V. in every home in America by the year 2000.....Did I mention I live in ME....Some people here have no power...but they choose that life...God bless 'em for living off the grid. Alex McCall >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:26:33 -0400 > >Well, you guys have got the true cynicism of a journalist down pat...why >waste it????? :-)... > >Newspapers will never become obsolete the same way books will never >become obsolete, but for very different reasons...you're not going to >find human interest stories of your neighbors on the national news, nor >will you find the ever-popular crime blotter...this is where local >newspapers, dailies and sometimes weekly newspapers will clean up -- and >what makes this 'businessman's MacPherson's' approach so distressing. > >at least now, local newspapers are catching up with the times and >issuing a majority of their stories, if not the entire paper, on the >web...they still fulfill their purpose...it's like a pop tart like >Brittney Spears, well maybe not her, changing their image and style to >match those changing tastes of her maturing audience...it's just the >newspaper readers are becoming more technologically savvy... > >FYI: I too sold out for the cash that a large publishing company could >offer, along with benefits that my old company didn't or wouldn't afford >its writers. Perhaps when I become independently wealthy, I'll go back >to the light side...til then... > >Libby Schirmer >-----Original Message----- >From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of >journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:10 PM >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > >Very good and interesting points Sean Swift. > >I too left the field of Journalism after finding I could make more cash >waiting tables. Now I work for a publisher , doing absolutely nothing >that >has anything to do with my degree. It's merely administrative work and >although I catch all the editorial department's mistakes, they won't >hire me >in that department and hire less skilled people because it is cheaper, >due >to the amount of years and annual raises I have aquired with the >company. > >I live in Maine, not comparable to Manhatten, but I bet when you look at >the >wages, it is pretty close, not to mention the fact that we have the 2nd >highest tax rate in the U.S. Only D.C. is higher. > >What about the fact that NBC nightly news has picked up stories from the > >"Daily Show?" What does that say about even our best journalists? Your >right >about the future of news sources though. A journalism degree will soon, >if >it isn't already, be as useful as a degree in Latin. > >Alex McCall > > > >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Honestly, I don't know how scary these times really > >are. I know it seems like it on the face of it, but I > >see it more as we're in a transition phase between old > >and new media. Those of you who know me probably know > >that I haven't made much use of my degree, mainly > >because I had issues with where media was heading even > >back in 2000 (there's also the matter of having to > >afford living in Manhattan, incidentally). > > > >I steadfastly believe that newspapers and network news > >will not be the dominant medium of delivering news > >within 20 years...maybe even less than that. Think > >about it on a historical timeline. People my age and > >younger are a generation that primarily gets their > >news directly through blogs, and indirectly through > >the Daily Show, the Colbert Report and even the Onion. > >Of course, blogs aren't news in the traditional > >sense...everything is filtered through a layer of > >opinion. However, if someone cares to explain to me > >how that differs from most major news sources now, I'd > >be much obliged. It's true that there are still good > >sources of journalism out there, but the playing field > >makes it that much harder for it to survive in the > >traditional ways. > > > >I think what you'll find is that eventually there will > >be an independent online media source that does go > >back to traditional newsgathering...journalism of no > >clique or party. The overhead is mainly bandwidth and > >talent - you're not buying entire forests' worth of > >paper to print on, and all the other costs that go > >along with it. Of course, they would still need > >advertisers, but they'd be less beholden to them when > >they aren't owned by corporations that have likely > >conflicts of interest with the news they are supposed > >to be impartially finding and presenting. > > > >On top of that, the proliferation of laptops, > >Blackberries, PDAs, Palm Pilots, etc. means that the > >old argument of having something you can hold in your > >hands and read doesn't apply so much anymore. You can > >not only read on the train or in a Starbucks, you also > >don't have to deal with folding it, flipping to page > >17A when the first half is on page one (I really, > >really, really HATE that). > > > >Let that creep Murdoch buy all the newspapers in the > >world. Whatever. I don't think it's going to be very > >long before it's the equivalent of owning stock in a > >steamboat company. > > > >- Sean Swift, > >Still overly wordy, all these years later. :) > > > > > > > >--- journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: > > > > > Mike Levine, our former executive editor, was a good > > > man and an > > > excellent journalist. Out of respect, they still > > > haven't filled his > > > position. You and he would have gotten along > > > famously. > > > > > > I just read this on Reuters: Rupert Murdoch plans to > > > offer Dow Jones & > > > Co.'s controlling Bancroft family a seat on the > > > board of his News Corp. > > > if News Corp's planned purchase of the publisher of > > > The Wall Street > > > Journal goes through, the newspaper said Monday on > > > its Web site. Murdoch > > > also plans to establish an "autonomous editorial > > > board" if the > > > transaction is approved, the newspaper said. > > > > > > This man needs to be stopped. If this happens, he'll > > > own the Press > > > Republican and my paper because they're both part of > > > Ottaway. > > > We are working in very scary times. > > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:01 PM > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 > > > billion bid to buy the > > > Wall > > > Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid for > > > the Bancroft family; > > > fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only > > > imagine what would > > > become of the > > > Journal should it be purchased. As some of our > > > alumni can attest (who > > > now work > > > for Murdoch), his concern is with only the bottom > > > line. And his brand of > > > "journalism" is another issue. > > > > > > On another note, I was moved to read Brant Houston's > > > column/obit in the > > > latest > > > issue of IRE Journal about the Times Herald-Record > > > editor who died in > > > January. > > > He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, one > > > with integrity > > > whose > > > allegiance is to readers not shareholders. > > > > > > Shawn Murphy > > > Associate Professor of Journalism > > > > > > Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > > > > > > > The topic of journalistic integrity has always > > > been a priority at my > > > > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge > > > topic last week when > > > > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow > > > Jones who owns us. > > > Thank > > > > God the Bancroft family knows what that term > > > means. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a > > > journalist. He's > > > concerned > > > > with > > > > the bottom line, not the public service that > > > defines the career. > > > > --Shawn Murphy > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > > > > > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real > > > journalist and has no idea > > > what > > > > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from > > > Plattsburgh > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> To: > > > >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > > > >> > > > >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad > > > picture of what > > > > American > > > >> journalism could become." > > > >> > > > >> Be sure to fight this at your news organization > > > should the higher-ups > > > >> propose outsourcing journalists. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- Shawn Murphy > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting > > > >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu > > > May 10, 5:51 PM ET > > > >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a > > > newspaper journalist > > > > based > > > >> in India to report on the city government and > > > political scene of > > > > Pasadena, > > > >> California, USA." > > > >> A reporter half a world away covering local > > > street-light contracts > > > and > > > >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten > > > closer to Pasadena > > > than > > > > the > > > >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? > > > >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, > > > then hit services such > > > as > > > > > > > >> technical support, airline reservations and tax > > > preparation. Now > > > comes > > > > the > > > >> next frontier: local journalism. > > > >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the > > > two-year-old Web site > > > >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange > > > to have journalists > > > in > > > >> India cover news in this wealthy city just > > > outside Los Angeles. > > > >> But he said it can be done from afar now that > > > weekly Pasadena City > > > > Council > > > >> meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he > > > said the idea makes > > > >> business sense because of India's lower labor > > > costs. > > > >> "I think it could be a significant way to > > > increase the quality of > > > >> journalism on the local level without the expense > > > that is a major > > > > problem > > > >> for local publications," said the 51-year-old > > > Pasadena native. > > > "Whether > > > > > > > >> you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, > > > you're still just a > > > > phone > > > >> call or e-mail away from the interview." > > > >> The first articles, some of which will carry > > > bylines, are slated to > > > > appear > > > >> Friday. > > > >> The plan has its doubters. > > > >> "Nobody in their right mind would trust the > > > reporting of people who > > > not > > > > > > > >> only don't know the institutions but aren't even > > > there to witness the > > > >> events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a > > > University of Southern > > > > California > > > >> journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This > > > is a truly sad > > > > picture of > > > >> what American journalism could become." > > > >> It is a shaky business proposition as well, said > > > Uday Karmarkar, a > > > UCLA > > > > > > > >> professor of technology and strategy who > > > outsources copy editing and > > > >> graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal > > > is sophisticated > > > > reporting, > > > >> he said, Macpherson could end up spending more > > > time editing than the > > > > labor > > > >> savings are worth. > > > >> This is not the first time media jobs have been > > > shipped to India. > > > >> The British news agency Reuters runs an operation > > > in the technology > > > > capital > > > >> of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories > > > based on news > > > > releases. > > > >> Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource > > > community journalism > > > - > > > > work > > > >> that by definition has been done by reporters who > > > walk the streets > > > they > > > > > > > >> cover. > > > >> Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out > > > of his house, gets > > > > about > > > >> 45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet > > > profitable. Up until > > > > now, > > > >> his main help has consisted of his wife and an > > > intern. > > > >> Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on > > > the Indian edition of > > > >> craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had > > > hired two Indian > > > > reporters, > > > >> one a graduate of the journalism school at the > > > University of > > > California > > > > at > > > >> Berkeley. > > > >> He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's > > > content from news releases > > > > and > > > >> event listings to analyses of issues before the > > > council, and perhaps > > > >> eventually to investigative reports. > > > >> Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not > > > bad wages for an > > > > Indian > > > >> journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, > > > especially if each one > > > produces > > > > the > > > >> expected 15 weekly articles. > > > >> Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said > > > coverage from afar > > > shouldn't > > > > pose > > > >> problems if the articles are well-edited. In any > > > case, she said, > > > "Local > > > > > > > >> government is certainly not in the practice of > > > dictating to local > > > > business > > > >> who they can hire and where those employees > > > should live." > > > >> ___ > > > >> Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New > > > Delhi, India, > > > > contributed > > > >> to this report. > > > >> ___ > > > >> On the Net: > > > >> The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com > > > >> The ad: > > > http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > > > > > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > >> Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web > > > mail-award-winning > > > > Windows > > > > Live Hotmail. > > > > > > > > >http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_mig >r > > > > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ >_____________Looking > >for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! >FareChase. > >http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > >_______________________________________________ > >Journalism-alumni mailing list > >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > >_________________________________________________________________ >PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web mail-award-winning >Windows >Live Hotmail. >http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migr >ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > >_______________________________________________ >Journalism-alumni mailing list >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni >_______________________________________________ >Journalism-alumni mailing list >Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni _________________________________________________________________ Catch suspicious messages before you open them—with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_protection_0507 From abmccall@hotmail.com Mon May 14 19:47:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Delivered-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Received: from bay0-omc3-s33.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s33.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.233]) by lists.plattsburgh.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D455A33E3 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 19:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.11.99]) by bay0-omc3-s33.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Mon, 14 May 2007 17:10:41 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 May 2007 17:10:41 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.11.123 by by123fd.bay123.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2007 00:10:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [76.179.150.11] X-Originating-Email: [abmccall@hotmail.com] X-Sender: abmccall@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:10:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2007 00:10:41.0011 (UTC) FILETIME=[791D0430:01C79685] From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-BeenThere: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu List-Id: jou-alum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:47:42 -0000 Libby, Just curiouse...what publisher? I work for Sellers Publishing. Very small, but "the fastest growing publisher of calenders in the U.S." They are expanding into the book industry, but honestly, failing I think. We sell alot of books to Barnes & Noble, but on a returnable basis, and sometimes they return almost the whole order. We mainly do calendars and greeting cards. Our Greeting card line is attempting to whipe out the business of Renaissance Greeting cards, who just got bought out by Marian Heath. Every day I wonder if we will be sold, since we are growing so fast. You may know more about this. Alex >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:26:33 -0400 > >Well, you guys have got the true cynicism of a journalist down pat...why >waste it????? :-)... > >Newspapers will never become obsolete the same way books will never >become obsolete, but for very different reasons...you're not going to >find human interest stories of your neighbors on the national news, nor >will you find the ever-popular crime blotter...this is where local >newspapers, dailies and sometimes weekly newspapers will clean up -- and >what makes this 'businessman's MacPherson's' approach so distressing. > >at least now, local newspapers are catching up with the times and >issuing a majority of their stories, if not the entire paper, on the >web...they still fulfill their purpose...it's like a pop tart like >Brittney Spears, well maybe not her, changing their image and style to >match those changing tastes of her maturing audience...it's just the >newspaper readers are becoming more technologically savvy... > >FYI: I too sold out for the cash that a large publishing company could >offer, along with benefits that my old company didn't or wouldn't afford >its writers. Perhaps when I become independently wealthy, I'll go back >to the light side...til then... > >Libby Schirmer >-----Original Message----- >From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of >journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:10 PM >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > >Very good and interesting points Sean Swift. > >I too left the field of Journalism after finding I could make more cash >waiting tables. Now I work for a publisher , doing absolutely nothing >that >has anything to do with my degree. It's merely administrative work and >although I catch all the editorial department's mistakes, they won't >hire me >in that department and hire less skilled people because it is cheaper, >due >to the amount of years and annual raises I have aquired with the >company. > >I live in Maine, not comparable to Manhatten, but I bet when you look at >the >wages, it is pretty close, not to mention the fact that we have the 2nd >highest tax rate in the U.S. Only D.C. is higher. > >What about the fact that NBC nightly news has picked up stories from the > >"Daily Show?" What does that say about even our best journalists? Your >right >about the future of news sources though. A journalism degree will soon, >if >it isn't already, be as useful as a degree in Latin. > >Alex McCall > > > >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Honestly, I don't know how scary these times really > >are. I know it seems like it on the face of it, but I > >see it more as we're in a transition phase between old > >and new media. Those of you who know me probably know > >that I haven't made much use of my degree, mainly > >because I had issues with where media was heading even > >back in 2000 (there's also the matter of having to > >afford living in Manhattan, incidentally). > > > >I steadfastly believe that newspapers and network news > >will not be the dominant medium of delivering news > >within 20 years...maybe even less than that. Think > >about it on a historical timeline. People my age and > >younger are a generation that primarily gets their > >news directly through blogs, and indirectly through > >the Daily Show, the Colbert Report and even the Onion. > >Of course, blogs aren't news in the traditional > >sense...everything is filtered through a layer of > >opinion. However, if someone cares to explain to me > >how that differs from most major news sources now, I'd > >be much obliged. It's true that there are still good > >sources of journalism out there, but the playing field > >makes it that much harder for it to survive in the > >traditional ways. > > > >I think what you'll find is that eventually there will > >be an independent online media source that does go > >back to traditional newsgathering...journalism of no > >clique or party. The overhead is mainly bandwidth and > >talent - you're not buying entire forests' worth of > >paper to print on, and all the other costs that go > >along with it. Of course, they would still need > >advertisers, but they'd be less beholden to them when > >they aren't owned by corporations that have likely > >conflicts of interest with the news they are supposed > >to be impartially finding and presenting. > > > >On top of that, the proliferation of laptops, > >Blackberries, PDAs, Palm Pilots, etc. means that the > >old argument of having something you can hold in your > >hands and read doesn't apply so much anymore. You can > >not only read on the train or in a Starbucks, you also > >don't have to deal with folding it, flipping to page > >17A when the first half is on page one (I really, > >really, really HATE that). > > > >Let that creep Murdoch buy all the newspapers in the > >world. Whatever. I don't think it's going to be very > >long before it's the equivalent of owning stock in a > >steamboat company. > > > >- Sean Swift, > >Still overly wordy, all these years later. :) > > > > > > > >--- journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: > > > > > Mike Levine, our former executive editor, was a good > > > man and an > > > excellent journalist. Out of respect, they still > > > haven't filled his > > > position. You and he would have gotten along > > > famously. > > > > > > I just read this on Reuters: Rupert Murdoch plans to > > > offer Dow Jones & > > > Co.'s controlling Bancroft family a seat on the > > > board of his News Corp. > > > if News Corp's planned purchase of the publisher of > > > The Wall Street > > > Journal goes through, the newspaper said Monday on > > > its Web site. Murdoch > > > also plans to establish an "autonomous editorial > > > board" if the > > > transaction is approved, the newspaper said. > > > > > > This man needs to be stopped. If this happens, he'll > > > own the Press > > > Republican and my paper because they're both part of > > > Ottaway. > > > We are working in very scary times. > > > > > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:01 PM > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 > > > billion bid to buy the > > > Wall > > > Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid for > > > the Bancroft family; > > > fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only > > > imagine what would > > > become of the > > > Journal should it be purchased. As some of our > > > alumni can attest (who > > > now work > > > for Murdoch), his concern is with only the bottom > > > line. And his brand of > > > "journalism" is another issue. > > > > > > On another note, I was moved to read Brant Houston's > > > column/obit in the > > > latest > > > issue of IRE Journal about the Times Herald-Record > > > editor who died in > > > January. > > > He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, one > > > with integrity > > > whose > > > allegiance is to readers not shareholders. > > > > > > Shawn Murphy > > > Associate Professor of Journalism > > > > > > Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: > > > > > > > The topic of journalistic integrity has always > > > been a priority at my > > > > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge > > > topic last week when > > > > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow > > > Jones who owns us. > > > Thank > > > > God the Bancroft family knows what that term > > > means. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM > > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a > > > journalist. He's > > > concerned > > > > with > > > > the bottom line, not the public service that > > > defines the career. > > > > --Shawn Murphy > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > > > > > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real > > > journalist and has no idea > > > what > > > > the term "journalistic integrity" means. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: > > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM > > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > > > > > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from > > > Plattsburgh > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> To: > > > >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists > > > >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 > > > >> > > > >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad > > > picture of what > > > > American > > > >> journalism could become." > > > >> > > > >> Be sure to fight this at your news organization > > > should the higher-ups > > > >> propose outsourcing journalists. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- Shawn Murphy > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting > > > >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu > > > May 10, 5:51 PM ET > > > >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a > > > newspaper journalist > > > > based > > > >> in India to report on the city government and > > > political scene of > > > > Pasadena, > > > >> California, USA." > > > >> A reporter half a world away covering local > > > street-light contracts > > > and > > > >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten > > > closer to Pasadena > > > than > > > > the > > > >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? > > > >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, > > > then hit services such > > > as > > > > > > > >> technical support, airline reservations and tax > > > preparation. Now > > > comes > > > > the > > > >> next frontier: local journalism. > > > >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the > > > two-year-old Web site > > > >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledged it sounds strange > > > to have journalists > > > in > > > >> India cover news in this wealthy city just > > > outside Los Angeles. > > > >> But he said it can be done from afar now that > > > weekly Pasadena City > > > > Council > > > >> meetings can be watched over the Internet. And he > > > said the idea makes > > > >> business sense because of India's lower labor > > > costs. > > > >> "I think it could be a significant way to > > > increase the quality of > > > >> journalism on the local level without the expense > > > that is a major > > > > problem > > > >> for local publications," said the 51-year-old > > > Pasadena native. > > > "Whether > > > > > > > >> you're at a desk in Pasadena or a desk in Mumbai, > > > you're still just a > > > > phone > > > >> call or e-mail away from the interview." > > > >> The first articles, some of which will carry > > > bylines, are slated to > > > > appear > > > >> Friday. > > > >> The plan has its doubters. > > > >> "Nobody in their right mind would trust the > > > reporting of people who > > > not > > > > > > > >> only don't know the institutions but aren't even > > > there to witness the > > > >> events and nuances," said Bryce Nelson, a > > > University of Southern > > > > California > > > >> journalism professor and Pasadena resident. "This > > > is a truly sad > > > > picture of > > > >> what American journalism could become." > > > >> It is a shaky business proposition as well, said > > > Uday Karmarkar, a > > > UCLA > > > > > > > >> professor of technology and strategy who > > > outsources copy editing and > > > >> graphics work to Indian businesses. If the goal > > > is sophisticated > > > > reporting, > > > >> he said, Macpherson could end up spending more > > > time editing than the > > > > labor > > > >> savings are worth. > > > >> This is not the first time media jobs have been > > > shipped to India. > > > >> The British news agency Reuters runs an operation > > > in the technology > > > > capital > > > >> of Bangalore that churns out Wall Street stories > > > based on news > > > > releases. > > > >> Macpherson appears to be the first to outsource > > > community journalism > > > - > > > > work > > > >> that by definition has been done by reporters who > > > walk the streets > > > they > > > > > > > >> cover. > > > >> Macphersons said his Web site, which he runs out > > > of his house, gets > > > > about > > > >> 45,000 unique readers per month but is not yet > > > profitable. Up until > > > > now, > > > >> his main help has consisted of his wife and an > > > intern. > > > >> Macpherson posted the help-wanted ad Monday on > > > the Indian edition of > > > >> craigslist.org. Within days, he said, he had > > > hired two Indian > > > > reporters, > > > >> one a graduate of the journalism school at the > > > University of > > > California > > > > at > > > >> Berkeley. > > > >> He wants them to broaden pasadenanow.com's > > > content from news releases > > > > and > > > >> event listings to analyses of issues before the > > > council, and perhaps > > > >> eventually to investigative reports. > > > >> Projected annual cost: $20,800 for the pair. Not > > > bad wages for an > > > > Indian > > > >> journalist and cheap by U.S. standards, > > > especially if each one > > > produces > > > > the > > > >> expected 15 weekly articles. > > > >> Pasadena city spokeswoman Ann Erdman said > > > coverage from afar > > > shouldn't > > > > pose > > > >> problems if the articles are well-edited. In any > > > case, she said, > > > "Local > > > > > > > >> government is certainly not in the practice of > > > dictating to local > > > > business > > > >> who they can hire and where those employees > > > should live." > > > >> ___ > > > >> Associated Press Writer Matthew Rosenberg in New > > > Delhi, India, > > > > contributed > > > >> to this report. > > > >> ___ > > > >> On the Net: > > > >> The news site: http://www.pasadenanow.com > > > >> The ad: > > > http://bangalore.craigslist.org/wri/325542906.html > > > > > > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > >> Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > >> > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > PC Magazine's 2007 editors' choice for best Web > > > mail-award-winning > > > > Windows > > > > Live Hotmail. > > > > > > > > >http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_mig >r > > > > ation_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Journalism-alumni mailing list > > > Journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu > > > > >http://lists.plattsburgh.edu/mailman/listinfo/journalism-alumni > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ >_____________Looking > >for a deal? 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Now I'm screwed. >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:10:39 -0400 > >Libby, > >Just curiouse...what publisher? I work for Sellers Publishing. Very small, >but "the fastest growing publisher of calenders in the U.S." They are >expanding into the book industry, but honestly, failing I think. We sell >alot of books to Barnes & Noble, but on a returnable basis, and sometimes >they return almost the whole order. > >We mainly do calendars and greeting cards. Our Greeting card line is >attempting to whipe out the business of Renaissance Greeting cards, who >just got bought out by Marian Heath. Every day I wonder if we will be sold, >since we are growing so fast. You may know more about this. > >Alex > > >>From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >>Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >>To: >>Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >>Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:26:33 -0400 >> >>Well, you guys have got the true cynicism of a journalist down pat...why >>waste it????? :-)... >> >>Newspapers will never become obsolete the same way books will never >>become obsolete, but for very different reasons...you're not going to >>find human interest stories of your neighbors on the national news, nor >>will you find the ever-popular crime blotter...this is where local >>newspapers, dailies and sometimes weekly newspapers will clean up -- and >>what makes this 'businessman's MacPherson's' approach so distressing. >> >>at least now, local newspapers are catching up with the times and >>issuing a majority of their stories, if not the entire paper, on the >>web...they still fulfill their purpose...it's like a pop tart like >>Brittney Spears, well maybe not her, changing their image and style to >>match those changing tastes of her maturing audience...it's just the >>newspaper readers are becoming more technologically savvy... >> >>FYI: I too sold out for the cash that a large publishing company could >>offer, along with benefits that my old company didn't or wouldn't afford >>its writers. Perhaps when I become independently wealthy, I'll go back >>to the light side...til then... >> >>Libby Schirmer >>-----Original Message----- >>From: journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu >>[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] On Behalf Of >>journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:10 PM >>To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >>Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> >>Very good and interesting points Sean Swift. >> >>I too left the field of Journalism after finding I could make more cash >>waiting tables. Now I work for a publisher , doing absolutely nothing >>that >>has anything to do with my degree. It's merely administrative work and >>although I catch all the editorial department's mistakes, they won't >>hire me >>in that department and hire less skilled people because it is cheaper, >>due >>to the amount of years and annual raises I have aquired with the >>company. >> >>I live in Maine, not comparable to Manhatten, but I bet when you look at >>the >>wages, it is pretty close, not to mention the fact that we have the 2nd >>highest tax rate in the U.S. Only D.C. is higher. >> >>What about the fact that NBC nightly news has picked up stories from the >> >>"Daily Show?" What does that say about even our best journalists? Your >>right >>about the future of news sources though. A journalism degree will soon, >>if >>it isn't already, be as useful as a degree in Latin. >> >>Alex McCall >> >> >> >From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> >Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> >To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> >Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:32 -0700 (PDT) >> > >> >Honestly, I don't know how scary these times really >> >are. I know it seems like it on the face of it, but I >> >see it more as we're in a transition phase between old >> >and new media. Those of you who know me probably know >> >that I haven't made much use of my degree, mainly >> >because I had issues with where media was heading even >> >back in 2000 (there's also the matter of having to >> >afford living in Manhattan, incidentally). >> > >> >I steadfastly believe that newspapers and network news >> >will not be the dominant medium of delivering news >> >within 20 years...maybe even less than that. Think >> >about it on a historical timeline. People my age and >> >younger are a generation that primarily gets their >> >news directly through blogs, and indirectly through >> >the Daily Show, the Colbert Report and even the Onion. >> >Of course, blogs aren't news in the traditional >> >sense...everything is filtered through a layer of >> >opinion. However, if someone cares to explain to me >> >how that differs from most major news sources now, I'd >> >be much obliged. It's true that there are still good >> >sources of journalism out there, but the playing field >> >makes it that much harder for it to survive in the >> >traditional ways. >> > >> >I think what you'll find is that eventually there will >> >be an independent online media source that does go >> >back to traditional newsgathering...journalism of no >> >clique or party. The overhead is mainly bandwidth and >> >talent - you're not buying entire forests' worth of >> >paper to print on, and all the other costs that go >> >along with it. Of course, they would still need >> >advertisers, but they'd be less beholden to them when >> >they aren't owned by corporations that have likely >> >conflicts of interest with the news they are supposed >> >to be impartially finding and presenting. >> > >> >On top of that, the proliferation of laptops, >> >Blackberries, PDAs, Palm Pilots, etc. means that the >> >old argument of having something you can hold in your >> >hands and read doesn't apply so much anymore. You can >> >not only read on the train or in a Starbucks, you also >> >don't have to deal with folding it, flipping to page >> >17A when the first half is on page one (I really, >> >really, really HATE that). >> > >> >Let that creep Murdoch buy all the newspapers in the >> >world. Whatever. I don't think it's going to be very >> >long before it's the equivalent of owning stock in a >> >steamboat company. >> > >> >- Sean Swift, >> >Still overly wordy, all these years later. :) >> > >> > >> > >> >--- journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu wrote: >> > >> > > Mike Levine, our former executive editor, was a good >> > > man and an >> > > excellent journalist. Out of respect, they still >> > > haven't filled his >> > > position. You and he would have gotten along >> > > famously. >> > > >> > > I just read this on Reuters: Rupert Murdoch plans to >> > > offer Dow Jones & >> > > Co.'s controlling Bancroft family a seat on the >> > > board of his News Corp. >> > > if News Corp's planned purchase of the publisher of >> > > The Wall Street >> > > Journal goes through, the newspaper said Monday on >> > > its Web site. Murdoch >> > > also plans to establish an "autonomous editorial >> > > board" if the >> > > transaction is approved, the newspaper said. >> > > >> > > This man needs to be stopped. If this happens, he'll >> > > own the Press >> > > Republican and my paper because they're both part of >> > > Ottaway. >> > > We are working in very scary times. >> > > >> > > Sandy >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: >> > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > >> >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] >> > > On Behalf Of >> > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:01 PM >> > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> > > >> > > I've been following the Murdoch/"News" Corp. $5 >> > > billion bid to buy the >> > > Wall >> > > Street Journal. It's a financially enticing bid for >> > > the Bancroft family; >> > > fortunately, there's resistance. Once can only >> > > imagine what would >> > > become of the >> > > Journal should it be purchased. As some of our >> > > alumni can attest (who >> > > now work >> > > for Murdoch), his concern is with only the bottom >> > > line. And his brand of >> > > "journalism" is another issue. >> > > >> > > On another note, I was moved to read Brant Houston's >> > > column/obit in the >> > > latest >> > > issue of IRE Journal about the Times Herald-Record >> > > editor who died in >> > > January. >> > > He sounded like the type of journalist I admire, one >> > > with integrity >> > > whose >> > > allegiance is to readers not shareholders. >> > > >> > > Shawn Murphy >> > > Associate Professor of Journalism >> > > >> > > Quoting journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu: >> > > >> > > > The topic of journalistic integrity has always >> > > been a priority at my >> > > > paper (Times Herald-Record), but it was a huge >> > > topic last week when >> > > > Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. offered to buy Dow >> > > Jones who owns us. >> > > Thank >> > > > God the Bancroft family knows what that term >> > > means. >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: >> > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > > >> > > >> >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] >> > > On Behalf Of >> > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:02 PM >> > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > > Subject: Re: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> > > > >> > > > I agree. Macpherson is a business man, not a >> > > journalist. He's >> > > concerned >> > > > with >> > > > the bottom line, not the public service that >> > > defines the career. >> > > > --Shawn Murphy >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: >> > > > To: >> > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM >> > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > James Macpherson is obviously not a real >> > > journalist and has no idea >> > > what >> > > > the term "journalistic integrity" means. >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: >> > > journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > > >> > > >> >[mailto:journalism-alumni-bounces@lists.plattsburgh.edu] >> > > On Behalf Of >> > > > journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:43 PM >> > > > To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > > Subject: RE: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> > > > >> > > > shows the true value of a journalism degree from >> > > Plattsburgh >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> From: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > >> Reply-To: journalism-alumni@lists.plattsburgh.edu >> > > >> To: >> > > >> Subject: [jou-alumni] outsourcing journalists >> > > >> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:11:10 -0400 >> > > >> >> > > >> As was said in the article, "This is a truly sad >> > > picture of what >> > > > American >> > > >> journalism could become." >> > > >> >> > > >> Be sure to fight this at your news organization >> > > should the higher-ups >> > > >> propose outsourcing journalists. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> -- Shawn Murphy >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Calif. Web site outsources reporting >> > > >> By JUSTIN PRITCHARD, Associated Press WriterThu >> > > May 10, 5:51 PM ET >> > > >> The job posting was a head-scratcher: "We seek a >> > > newspaper journalist >> > > > based >> > > >> in India to report on the city government and >> > > political scene of >> > > > Pasadena, >> > > >> California, USA." >> > > >> A reporter half a world away covering local >> > > street-light contracts >> > > and >> > > >> sewer repairs? A reporter who has never gotten >> > > closer to Pasadena >> > > than >> > > > the >> > > >> telecast of the Rose Bowl parade? >> > > >> Outsourcing first claimed manufacturing jobs, >> > > then hit services such >> > > as >> > > > >> > > >> technical support, airline reservations and tax >> > > preparation. Now >> > > comes >> > > > the >> > > >> next frontier: local journalism. >> > > >> James Macpherson, editor and publisher of the >> > > two-year-old Web site >> > > >> pasadenanow.com, acknowledg